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Exactly.

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Fox's Gasparino: GOP operatives raising possibility Trump 'could drop out of race' if polls don't rebound

THAT would be the worst of all possible worlds....



Yes, it could be. It's possible Pence could be elected.



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Exactly.



And that would be just Pence's FIRST term.

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Yes. He could finish up Trump's term PLUS two more.

Heaven help us.

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James Carville is having a fine time imagining Trump's farewell address here: https://thebulwark.com/trumps-farewell-address/

One line of his flight of fancy goes like this (Trump speaking): Therefore, I will pass the baton off to Mike and his running mate Nikki Haley, who’s always said nice things about me no matter what. They will be accepting the Republican nomination for president and vice president in Jacksonville in just a few days.

Imagine a Pence/Haley ticket. I fear it would be eminently electable. What do others think?

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I think it's a dangerous ticket.

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It’s definitely an interesting question. Would Pence have the same appeal to the swing voters who barely got Trump across the finish line in 2016? Would he win the votes of those who voted against Hillary rather than for Trump? Personally, I think the Republicans will have a high hurdle in either case.
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I think there would be a lot of Republicans who would want to prove to their friends that they're "real" Republicans and don't have to vote for that nut case, Trump.

In many ways I think Pence is far more dangerous than Trump because he would know how not to say the quiet parts out loud while still being just as awful and, perhaps, just as corrupt. And Nikki Haley has a pretty good following.

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(Peter flashes an evil grin)

What makes you think that Trump would throw his weight behind Pence? Wouldn't he be just as likely to double cross his VP and back Haley instead?

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(Peter flashes an evil grin)

What makes you think that Trump would throw his weight behind Pence? Wouldn't he be just as likely to double cross his VP and back Haley instead?



Ha! Darned good question, Peter, and well within Trump's oeuvre.

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The Lincoln Project is back with a new ad.

EXACTLY what we need!



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The Lincoln Project is back with a new ad.

EXACTLY what we need!




Whoa! MAN, they're good!

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Excellent ad. Thanks, Lis.
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This kind of ad is going to resonate with veterans and active military alike -- and their spouses and kids.

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I’d be a lot more confident going in with a Trump/Pence ticket than I would be with a Pence/Haley or Haley/anybody ticket.
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Me, too.

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Me, too.

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Another from the Lincoln Project that came out over the weekend:



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Republicans For The Rule Of Law have put out some ads just ripping Trump's clothes off. Those folks are good!
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This Should Be Biden’s Bumper Sticker

By Thomas L. Friedman
June 30, 2020

I have an idea for Biden’s bumper sticker.

The slogan that comes to mind was suggested to me by the environmental innovator Hal Harvey, who happened to sign off a recent email to me with “Respect science, respect nature, respect each other.”

I thought — wow, that’s a perfect message for Biden, and for all of us. It summarizes so simply the most important values Americans feel that we’ve lost in recent years and hope to regain from a post-Trump presidency.

Biden should highlight his commitment to all three values in every speech and interview he gives. They draw such a clear, simple and easy to remember contrast with Trump.

Trump’s disdain for science has become fatal, as we’re seeing in this widening pandemic. He has gone from offering quack remedies, like disinfectant, ultraviolet light and hydroxychloroquine, to mocking people, including Biden, for adopting the easiest and most scientifically proven method for limiting the spread of the coronavirus: wearing a face mask.

The pro-Trump governor of Arizona, where the virus is now spiraling out of control, at one point actually barred local officials from mandating that residents wear masks. That’s as crazy as when Trump declared, “If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”

Think about that: Stop testing. Then we’ll have no knowledge. Then we’ll have no numbers. Then we’ll have no virus. Why didn’t I think of that?

Stop testing people for drunken driving, and then we’ll have no more drunken drivers. Stop arresting people for shootings, and then the crime rate will go down.

This is Dark Ages stuff,” remarked Harvey, founder of Energy Innovation. “A prime difference between the Enlightenment and the Dark Ages is respect for knowledge, respect for science. The whole idea of progress requires objectively looking at problems, finding and testing solutions, and then spreading and using the best of them.”

Respecting nature has two meanings. The first is to respect the power of nature. She doesn’t negotiate. You cannot seduce her or sue her. She does whatever chemistry, biology and physics dictate. Which means in a pandemic that she will just keep infecting people — relentlessly, mercilessly, silently and exponentially — until she runs out of people to infect or a vaccine or exposure makes enough of us immune. She also doesn’t keep score. She’ll make you sick and then blow down your house with a tornado.

Trump’s lack of respect for nature has been a disaster for the country. He has built no coordinated national strategy against a virus that demands coordination — because the virus evolved to exploit any cracks in your personal or communal immune system, and it pays no heed to the Oklahoma-Texas borderline.

Respect for nature also means understanding that we live on a hard rock called planet Earth with a thin cover of oceans and topsoil, enveloped by a thin layer of atmosphere. Abuse that soil, junk up those oceans with plastics, distort that atmospheric blanket and we will likely (further) destroy the perfect Garden of Eden that has been the basis of all human civilization.

Respect each other? That’s not so easy in the midst of our other pandemic — a pandemic of incivility. You cannot exaggerate the impact on the whole civic culture of having a president who has elevated name-calling, denigration and lying to a central feature of his presidency.

We have social networks whose business model is to elevate and spread the most enraged voices from the far right and the far left, and generally bring out the worst in people. This pandemic of incivility is fed by many sources. We have white police officers who feel such a sense of impunity that one of them kept his knee on a Black man’s neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds while people were recording him on their phones.

We have a level of inequality that is so endemic that your ZIP code is now a better predictor of life expectancy than your genetic code. Respecting each other means ensuring each other’s equal access to the American dream — and right now, Black, Hispanic and white Americans are climbing very different housing, education and health care ladders, which simply has to be fixed.

And we have a mad gun culture that has way too many young men thinking respect can come from the barrel of a gun. Minneapolis has witnessed over 100 people shot since the death of George Floyd on May 25 — a lot of it gang-related.

I don’t know what is sufficient to get more people respecting one another, but I know two things that are necessary. One is a president who every day models respect rather than denigration.
The other is getting people out of Facebook and into each other’s faces again — not to shout or denounce, but to listen. It’s important what you learn when you listen. Listening is a sign of respect. And it is amazing what people will let you say to them if they first think that you respect them.

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“Respect science, respect nature, respect each other.”

That's outstanding!

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