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I think Elizabeth Warren is perceived as being too far to the left. I'm not sure that's her true position, but I think that's how she's seen.

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Elizabeth Warren won't beat Trump.



No indeed. He'll just keep chanting, "Pocahontas, Pocahontas."

If the real Pocahontas came back from the dead, I'd vote for her instead of him.



LOL, Birdz!

I wonder if Trump would demand to see her birth certificate, to prove she was born here....

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YES!!!



Trump pushes to swap Electoral College for popular vote

By LOUIS NELSON | 04/26/2018 10:47 AM EDT


President Donald Trump on Thursday voiced support for doing away with the Electoral College for presidential elections in favor of a popular vote because the latter would be “much easier to win.”

The president’s support for a popular-vote presidential election came as an aside during a freewheeling Thursday morning interview with “Fox & Friends,” the Fox News morning show he is known to watch and from which he receives almost unflinchingly positive coverage. Trump made the remark amid a larger point about public figures who publicly support him in turn benefiting from a boost of popularity from Trump supporters.

“Remember, we won the election. And we won it easily. You know, a lot of people say ‘Oh, it was close.’ And by the way, they also like to always talk about Electoral College. Well, it’s an election based on the Electoral College. I would rather have a popular election, but it’s a totally different campaign,” Trump said. “It’s as though you're running — if you're a runner, you're practicing for the 100-yard dash as opposed to the 1-mile.”

“The Electoral College is different. I would rather have the popular vote because it's, to me, it's much easier to win the popular vote,” he continued.

Despite projections ahead of Election Day that the Electoral College map did not offer him a clear path to victory, Trump cruised past the 270-electoral-vote threshold, ultimately earning 306. (Trump officially earned 304 votes, thanks to two electors who voted against the president even though he won their state.)

But despite Trump’s claims that his election was a landslide victory, he has at times been haunted by the fact that Democrat Hillary Clinton beat him in the popular vote by almost 3 million votes, a result Trump has chalked up to a strategic decision by his 2016 team not to campaign in blue states. Only one Republican, George W. Bush in 2004, has won the nationwide popular vote in presidential elections dating back to 1992.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/trump-electoral-college-popular-vote-555148

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But will he still want that tomorrow? (Or even later today.)
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But will he still want that tomorrow? (Or even later today.)



Ha! Perfect question!

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From the 2018 midterms thread...


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Mea culpa. Permission to revise and extend my remarks?

If you're a CONSERVATIVE you'd rather see that.... emoticon




You'd think Kasich would be that guy for the GOP, but he sure didn't get much traction in 2016.

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He was who I was for after Jeb didn't actually want it.
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He was who I was for after Jeb didn't actually want it.



I thought Kasich was the best of the GOP bunch, too. I disagree with him on a number of topics, but he doesn't make me want to go hide in another country.

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Kasich was the Republican I was scaredest of. I thought he could beat Hillary or Bernie, either, with the Independent vote.
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The Democrats have to come up with someone who can beat Trump. I'm not sure that person is out there, or if he/she is he/she is hidden.



We need to be figuring out who she will be.

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The Democrats have to come up with someone who can beat Trump. I'm not sure that person is out there, or if he/she is he/she is hidden.



We need to be figuring out who she will be.



I offer, for discussion, these possibilities:

Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minnesota)
Governor Kate Brown (D Oregon)
Governor Gina Raimondo (D Rhode Island)

While I would generally prefer someone with executive experience, i.e. a governor, neither of these two governors are known to the public and both have been in office only a couple of years.

That takes me to Tammy Baldwin and Amy Klobuchar, both of whom impress me greatly and, I suspect, wouldn't set the hair of those who lean conservative on fire.

Thoughts?

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The Democrats have to come up with someone who can beat Trump. I'm not sure that person is out there, or if he/she is he/she is hidden.



We need to be figuring out who she will be.



I offer, for discussion, these possibilities:

Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-Wisconsin)
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minnesota)
Governor Kate Brown (D Oregon)
Governor Gina Raimondo (D Rhode Island)

While I would generally prefer someone with executive experience, i.e. a governor, neither of these two governors are known to the public and both have been in office only a couple of years.

That takes me to Tammy Baldwin and Amy Klobuchar, both of whom impress me greatly and, I suspect, wouldn't set the hair of those who lean conservative on fire.

Thoughts?



I would add Senator Kamala Harris to that list at this early juncture. I’d like to get to know her better at least. I like Senators Baldwin and Klobuchar, but I haven’t looked at them closely enough in this context. But I will look at all of them.
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I would add Senator Kamala Harris to that list at this early juncture. I’d like to get to know her better at least. I like Senators Baldwin and Klobuchar, but I haven’t looked at them closely enough in this context. But I will look at all of them.



I like Senator Kamala Harris, too, but I think she, like Elizabeth Warren, will be seen as too far to the left.

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Harris has some baggage which IMO would prevent her from winning a national election.

Go here.

That will hurt her and it should. I wouldn't support her.
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I could live with a Kasich presidency. I can't stand what he did to public education in Ohio, but I think everyone labeled (R) in the political arena is on the same mission. Outside of that, he's thoughtful and he reaches for consensus. I respect that.

And... I respectfully add THIS name to the mix of Democratic female presidential candidates for 2020:

Tammy Duckworth


Retired US Army Lieutenant Colonel

Wounded war hero

Asst Secy for Public and Intergovernmental Affairs in US Dept of Veterans Affairs

Director of Illinois Dept of Veterans Affairs

US Representative

US Senator

Mom of two young children

And before we jump onto the Trump birth certificate trail, yes, she WAS born in Thailand to a Thai mother -- and an American father who can trace his roots all the way back to the American Revolution. That makes her a full-blown, natural-born American citizen.

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And... I respectfully add THIS name to the mix of Democratic female presidential candidates for 2020:




I hadn't added it right? emoticon

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I would add Senator Kamala Harris to that list at this early juncture. I’d like to get to know her better at least. I like Senators Baldwin and Klobuchar, but I haven’t looked at them closely enough in this context. But I will look at all of them.



I like Senator Kamala Harris, too, but I think she, like Elizabeth Warren, will be seen as too far to the left.



She will also face criticism for having African-American heritage and for currently serving only her first term in the Senate. Sound familiar?


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It went so very badly last time, didn't it?

But the deal breaker this time is that she's a woman.

Heaven forbid.

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2020? What needs to happen is relatively simple. The Democrats need to bring back Adlai Stevenson from the grave. And the Republicans need to bring back Gerald Ford from the grave. That would be an election worth voting in.

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I'd say right now that Trump is the odds-on favorite. That disturbs me greatly to say that, but I believe at this time that he would win again. He has a large base that doesn't care about the country and is more interested in winning and causing liberal pearl-clutching and tears. Enough independents and moderates will go along if the economy is OK and he hasn't started WWIII.
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