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I've had an online subscription to the WaPo for years. I don't read the Times because of when they got caught lying in stories. There are plenty of news sites that are free so I don't subscribe to the WSJ. I probably should since I do dabble in the market, and quite successfully, I might add. Their Editorials leave a lot to be desired, although their news department is good.
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And the WSJ weekend editions are also pretty good Coooter.

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When is the last time that a politician went to prison for something other than sex crimes or stealing money? I'll believe that folks are going to be indicted when it happens. Up until them, I'm not holding my breath. Government always protects itself as do politicians.



So is the Special Counsel investigation a waste of time?



For the most part. I think there are a few guys who could be in trouble, perjury for starters, but nothing sensational.



We'll just have to wait and see. But I think you may well be surprised. We have no idea what evidence, if any, has been amassed by Mueller. I don't draw any conclusions based on what we don't know, What I don't believe is that this is politics as usual. The House and Senate investigations may well be that, but, imo, not the investigation by the Special Counsel.
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You're making an assumption without any evidence.



I said it badly. I was referring to the importance of the INVESTIGATION, because it can help to discover WHETHER Trump and crew were conspiring with a hostile nation to usurp an American election.

As Belle said, Rachel Maddow is by no means the only person onto what is going on -- but she is by far the best at explaining it, in detail, in the words that real people use.

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(BBC) - Oprah Winfrey has told the US magazine InStyle that she does not "have the DNA" to be US president.

She had been widely touted as a future Democratic contender for the 2020 elections after a rousing speech at the Golden Globes earlier this month.

But she told InStyle: "I've always felt very secure and confident with myself in knowing what I could do and what I could not.

"And so it's not something that interests me."

She gave the interview three weeks before picking up the Cecil B DeMille award for outstanding contribution to entertainment in early January, InStyle said.


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Somebody has to be found somewhere who will beat Trump. Either party.



You'd think it would be easy, but so far the Democrats have offered only "We're not Trump" as a reason to vote Democratic. That's not going to get it.

And if Trump is still in office by 2019/2020, Republicans probably won't run against him.

It is entirely possible that with the support of only one-third of the country, Trump will win a second term.

It's a bit after 10:00 AM at my house and thoughts such as that make me want to start drinking.

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"You'd think it would be easy, but so far the Democrats have offered only "We're not Trump" as a reason to vote Democratic. That's not going to get it."

They've also offered, "We want to save DACA and Obamacare and the FBI and Bears Ears and respect for America in the world, and we want sensible gun control laws." Lots more things than "We're not Trump."
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Belle, I've also seen the mountain of issues Dems support. I don't understand that "Dems have to say more than 'We're not Trump'" mantra. I've seen the same accusation of Hillary in the 2016 campaign, when her website and speeches were FILLED with well-developed policy proposals.

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Where are the things said that you've cited? I listen to Tom Perez every time I see him on TV, and he drones bumper stickers with no specifics.

Who is a likely candidate for President in 2020? Not Bernie or Elizabeth; their time has passed. Who else we got?

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Do you listen to Chuck Schumer, Robbie? Nancy Pelosi? Chris Murphy (on the need for gun control)? Elizabeth Warren (on the need for restoration of the consumer protection agency)?
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Robbie, here are five names to mull over for 2020: Jeff Merkley, Tammy Duckworth, Sherrod Brown, Debbie Stabenow, and Amy Klobuchar. Personally, I would be happy with any of them as a presidential candidate. I'd probably be happiest with either Duckworth of Brown at the top of the ticket.

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Robbie, I am thinking Biden may be preparing for a run. We're still a little early for 2020 candidates, but they'll be coming. Maybe Kirsten Gillibrand. Maybe Julian Castro. Maybe Cory Booker.

Meanwhile, like Belle, I'm listening to the members of Congress who are stepping right up to articulate Democratic values and policy proposals.

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Andrew worked for Duckworth during her Senate run. He is very excited about her policy stands, work ethic, and political courage to speak her mind. Sorry I forgot to include her in my 2020 potential list. Good call, Peter.

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I have my heart set on Elizabeth Warren.
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Robbie, here are five names to mull over for 2020: Jeff Merkley, Tammy Duckworth, Sherrod Brown, Debbie Stabenow, and Amy Klobuchar. Personally, I would be happy with any of them as a presidential candidate. I'd probably be happiest with either Duckworth of Brown at the top of the ticket.



Terrific list, Peter. Like you, I'd prefer Duckworth, but any of them would be excellent.

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Somebody has to be found somewhere who will beat Trump. Either party.



You'd think it would be easy, but so far the Democrats have offered only "We're not Trump" as a reason to vote Democratic. That's not going to get it.

And if Trump is still in office by 2019/2020, Republicans probably won't run against him.

It is entirely possible that with the support of only one-third of the country, Trump will win a second term.

It's a bit after 10:00 AM at my house and thoughts such as that make me want to start drinking.



I think I will. I've made a few comments elsewhere that I think he'll win another term.
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Oh, Cooter, I certainly hope not. Then I WILL start drinking on a regular basis.

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Elizabeth Warren won't beat Trump.
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Elizabeth Warren won't beat Trump.



No indeed. He'll just keep chanting, "Pocahontas, Pocahontas."

If the real Pocahontas came back from the dead, I'd vote for her instead of him.

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Elizabeth Warren won't beat Trump.



No indeed. He'll just keep chanting, "Pocahontas, Pocahontas."

If the real Pocahontas came back from the dead, I'd vote for her instead of him.



I just don't think she's that strong a candidate.
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