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The Trump Administration


Article II of the U.S. Constitution vests the executive power of the United States in the president. The power includes execution of federal law, alongside the responsibility of appointing federal executive, diplomatic, regulatory and judicial officers, and concluding treaties with foreign powers with the advice and consent of the Senate. The president is further empowered to grant federal pardons and reprieves, and to convene and adjourn either or both houses of Congress under extraordinary circumstances. The president is largely responsible for dictating the legislative agenda of the party to which the president is a member. The president also directs the foreign and domestic policy of the United States. Since the office of President was established in 1789, its power has grown substantially, as has the power of the federal government as a whole.

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        Miz Robbie wrote:

           CooterBrown wrote:There is no question that Trump has emboldened white supremacy groups. He's even courted them in indirect ways.

        As David Duke pointed out, that's who elected him.

*****

    Exactly. And as long as loyalty remains politically experient to Trump, he will remain loyal to them.

    Until he doesn't.


    Because, you know, loyalty runs exactly one way for Trump.



I wonder how long General John Kelly will be willing to stay as Trump's Chief of Staff. His discomfort during Trump's rant regarding Charlottesville on Tuesday was evident.


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From Australia...

Trump blasts Republican senators

10:45pm Aug 17, 2017

Donald Trump has fired back at fellow Republicans who denounced his response to the Charlottesville violence, further fuelling the latest controversy to engulf his seven-month-old presidency.

In a series of posts on Twitter, Trump lashed out at Republican US Senators Lindsey Graham and Jeff Flake as well as the media, and said he not had drawn any moral comparisons between white supremacists and those who opposed them.

The weekend violence at the Virginia college town has inflamed racial tensions nationwide and renewed concerns over hate groups after Trump blamed both anti-racism activists and white nationalists.

On Tuesday, the president offered a more vehement reprisal of his initial response to Saturday's bloodshed, telling a news conference "there is blame on both sides" for the violence, and that there were "very fine people" on both sides.

The comments drew rebukes from top Republicans and corporate leaders for his failure to unequivocally denounce white supremacists, although many did not name the president outright.

Other Trump supporters, including Vice President Mike Pence, have said they stand by the president and his words.

On Thursday, Trump called Graham's statement a day earlier "a disgusting lie." Graham had said Trump's comments had suggested "moral equivalency" between the two sides and urged him to use his words to heal Americans.

Flake, another vocal Trump critic, also called for direct condemnation of white supremacy groups.

"Publicity seeking Lindsey Graham falsely stated that I said there is moral equivalency between the KKK, neo-Nazis & white supremacists and people like Ms. Heyer. Such a disgusting lie. He just can't forget his election trouncing. The people of South Carolina will remember!" Trump wrote.

The president was referring to 32-year-old Heather Heyer, who was killed when a suspected white nationalist crashed his car into anti-racist demonstrators.

In a separate tweet, he called Flake "WEAK on borders, crime and a non-factor in Senate. He's toxic!" and appeared to endorse Kelli Ward, Flake's Republican challenger in his 2018 re-election race.

Representatives for Graham, Flake and Ward did not immediately reply to requests for comment.

The fallout from Trump's response also led to the disbanding of his CEO advisory panels on Wednesday as a growing number of chief executives from some of the nation's largest companies resigned in protest against the president's response.

The folding of the councils has raised speculation that senior administration figures might step down to avoid being tarnished by their association with Trump.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2017/08/17/03/36/trump-ending-two-ceo-advisory-panels

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Republicans worry that their candidates could pay in the 2018 midterms for the continued controversy over President Trump’s remarks on the deadly violence in Charlottesville, Va.

Trump’s equivocation on how much blame should be put on white supremacist groups for the violence sets up a challenge that’s difficult for Republican candidates to avoid — and one that Democrats are eager to bring up.

Republican campaign chiefs raced to distance themselves from Trump’s decision not to single out white supremacists for condemnation, acutely aware of the potential damage the comments could have on the party's prospects in the 2018 midterm elections.

“It overshadows everything. If you are a Republican candidate and you have an event today, this will be the first thing you are asked about,” said former Republican National Committee spokesman Doug Heye, who has long been critical of Trump.

“This is the attack on the Khan family, the attack on Judge Curiel, the birther attacks on [President Barack Obama],” he added, referring to Trump's more racially tinged controversies.

The stakes are already high for Republicans in 2018, as Trump’s dismal approval rating helps put the House into play and gives Democrats a lifeline despite a tough Senate map.

But while polling has suggested that voters are more willing to separate Trump’s actions from his party, Republicans are concerned that Trump’s stance on the violence in Charlottesville will translate into lost votes, particularly from minority voters.



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So far, so good on using stuff! emoticon

It will be interesting to see how far candidates for next year will try to distance themselves from Trump. The more they do, the less influence he's going to have in the party.
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We have got to get rid of this lunatic before he destroys the country. Pence would be horrible but at least he might be sane. I know people who are rabid Trump supporters and for the most part they are racist uneducated and pretty dumb.
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I wonder how long General John Kelly will be willing to stay as Trump's Chief of Staff. His discomfort during Trump's rant regarding Charlottesville on Tuesday was evident.



Apparently some of those who really want to resign are instead deciding to remain in place to limit the amount of damage Trump is able to do.... My suspicion (and only my suspicion) is that others on the staff are seeking other jobs and can't find them after being tainted by the Trump Administration....

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I don't know how anyone can work for trump and stay sane. IMO, he's a sociopath, a pathological liar who tells the truth only by accident, is narcissistic to the point where he demands loyalty but refuses to reciprocate. That he has access to the nuclear code scares the daylights out of me.
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We have got to get rid of this lunatic before he destroys the country. Pence would be horrible but at least he might be sane. I know people who are rabid Trump supporters and for the most part they are racist uneducated and pretty dumb.



Unfortunately, Kay, Pence supporters are pretty much the same. The only real differences between them are that Pence is a complete ideologue and that Pence does everything in the shadows, so you don't realize what he's doing until it is done. There is some merit to Trump's transparency, in that we can stop him before he actually accomplishes something dangerous. The merit to Pence is that he's far less likely to blow anything up.

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I don't know how anyone can work for trump and stay sane. IMO, he's a sociopath, a pathological liar who tells the truth only by accident, is narcissistic to the point where he demands loyalty but refuses to reciprocate. That he has access to the nuclear code scares the daylights out of me.



Boy, have you nailed it, Birdz.

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I lost a lot of respect for Elaine Chao this week. After Trump has continually berated her husband (Mitch McConnell), she defended Trump against the ridiculous "non-infrastructure" rant about Charlottesville. It was not lost on me that Trump trotted out Chao (an Asian-American), Steve Mnuchen (Jewish), and Mick Mulvaney (Catholic) to defend Trump for his "equivocal" support for the groups that so hate them.

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I lost a lot of respect for Elaine Chao this week. After Trump has continually berated her husband (Mitch McConnell), she defended Trump against the ridiculous "non-infrastructure" rant about Charlottesville. It was not lost on me that Trump trotted out Chao (an Asian-American), Steve Mnuchen (Jewish), and Mick Mulvaney (Catholic) to defend Trump for his "equivocal" support for the groups that so hate them.



What a weird position for her to be in! It was supposed to be the launch of the infrastructure initiative, and she's the Secretary of Transportation, heavily involved in infrastructure. She was there to smile and hold a chart. He was supposed to talk about something we all endorse.

And then he went off the rails, leaving her and everyone else there not knowing where to run and hide. We saw Chief of Staff John Kelly looking at his shoes and wincing. And there was Secretary Chao, wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, bereft of her chart and stuck next to Trump as he went on a vicious rant.

What's a girl to do?

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What's a girl to do? Kick him in the nuts.
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What's a girl to do? Kick him in the nuts.



If I agree with that, will I be arrested?

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What's a girl to do? Kick him in the nuts.



If I agree with that, will I be arrested?



Possibly, here in Wonderland. But you can join ranks with neo-nazis with little fear of reprisal in this neck of the woods, so it balances out. *sarcasm*
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Donald Trump wrong that Charlottesville counter-protesters didn't have a permit
By Louis Jacobson on Thursday, August 17th, 2017 at 5:30 p.m.

We took a closer look at the question of who had a permit to march in Charlottesville, Va., on Aug. 11 and 12.

During the contentious Trump Tower question-and-answer session about protests in Charlottesville, Va., President Donald Trump said that the Unite the Right marchers had a permit to demonstrate, but that counter-protesters did not.

Here’s a portion of Trump’s extensive comments about Charlottesville during the session with reporters:

"There were people in that rally. I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly the taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee. I am sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest.

"Because I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit. So I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country."

Here, we’ll take a look at whether white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville "had a permit" and that the counter-protesters "didn’t have a permit."

[snip]

The existence of the city permit issued to Heinecke flatly debunks Trump’s assertion that the counter-protesters lacked a permit -- assuming you understand Trump to mean that counter-protesters had no permit for Saturday’s march.

And that’s where the White House told us they differ.

The Friday night march at the University of Virginia

The White House told PolitiFact that Trump was talking about a related, but separate, Friday night protest on the campus of the University of Virginia.

On the night before the Saturday march, about 250 white nationalists carrying torches marched on campus and confronted 20 to 30 students who had locked arms around the base of a statue of Thomas Jefferson, according to the Washington Post. Clashes occurred there, leaving some injured.

The White House pointed to the president’s statement from Trump Tower that "I looked the night before -- if you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. ... You had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest, and very legally protest -- because I don’t know if you know, they had a permit.  The other group didn’t have a permit." (Emphasis by the White House.) [again, not used to new format, but WH emphasized "innocently protest" and "very quietly."]

However, there are a few problems with this explanation.

First, no permit was required for any protest on the University of Virginia campus, either from the university (which has jurisdiction on the campus) or the city (which does not).

"The University does not require permits to use public spaces," said University of Virginia spokesman Anthony P. de Bruyn. "Existing university policy speaks only to the ability to access university-owned facilities such as academic buildings and performance venues."

He added that "the University of Virginia is a public institution, and as such must abide by state and federal law regarding the general public’s right to access outdoor spaces. This includes open spaces such as … our historic Lawn."

So if Trump meant to refer to the Friday night protest, then he’s wrong here, too. Neither side had permits because there were none to give.

Second, it’s worth noting another problem: Documentary footage by Vice shows clearly that marchers shouted "blood and soil" -- a slogan from Nazi Germany -- and "Jews will not replace us." That’s not a case of "people protesting very quietly," as Trump said.

Our ruling

Trump said that white nationalist protesters in Charlottesville "had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit."

In reality, both the Unite the Right marchers and the counter-protesters had official permission to assemble on Saturday, either from a court or from the city. If Trump meant to refer to the Friday night march, then neither side would have needed a permit to assemble. And if he did mean Friday night’s march, then he is seriously distorting the torch-light march by saying participants were "protesting very quietly."
We rate the statement Pants on Fire.

Donald Trump
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/17/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-charlottesville-counter-protest/

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What a weird position for her to be in! It was supposed to be the launch of the infrastructure initiative, and she's the Secretary of Transportation, heavily involved in infrastructure. She was there to smile and hold a chart. He was supposed to talk about something we all endorse.

And then he went off the rails, leaving her and everyone else there not knowing where to run and hide. We saw Chief of Staff John Kelly looking at his shoes and wincing. And there was Secretary Chao, wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, bereft of her chart and stuck next to Trump as he went on a vicious rant.

What's a girl to do?



I agree she was in a tough spot. But she did defend him, saying that Trump "already said it was intolerable." Except that he had JUST gone on a major rant to insist that the counterprotesters were every bit as guilty of hatred, bigotry, and violence as the Nazis and white nationalists. Which was a lie. At the VERY least, she could have rolled her eyes and said, "President Trump will have to answer for his own comments."

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President Donald Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon has been fired, two White House officials told CNN Friday.

A source told CNN that Bannon was given the option to resign but was forced out. White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders confirmed Bannon's departure but did not say whether he was fired or resigned.
"White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and Steve Bannon have mutually agreed today would be Steve's last day. We are grateful for his service and wish him the best," Sanders said in a statement.

The President has privately stewed over Bannon in recent days, including Thursday night from his golf course in New Jersey. He was furious with his chief strategist after he was quoted in an interview with the American Prospect contradicting him on North Korea and asserting that he was able to make personnel changes at the State Department.



PLEASE let the door hit you in the ass on your way out....

Sources are now saying that Breitbart is excited about having him back, and they're declaring war on the White House. "Now it's a Democrat White House," the source says.

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Donald Trump wrong that Charlottesville counter-protesters didn't have a permit
By Louis Jacobson on Thursday, August 17th, 2017 at 5:30 p.m.



Thanks so much for finding this, Birdz. I just shook my head at Trump's lie about the haters "marching quietly" the night before. Apparently he didn't hear the shouting from them that I (and everyone else) did. And the intimidation factor frightens a whole lot of people.

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Bannon's out! Wow!

I was knitting, sitting at my dining room table with various yarns and needles spread all around, halfway through an 81-stiches row, listening to my local NPR station. All of a sudden they announced Steve Bannon has been fired.

WHAT? WOW!!!

I couldn't leave the knitting mid-row without totally messing myself up, so I finished it before coming in here to the den.

Holy cats, Bannon is sure to attack Trump now.

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Holy cats, Bannon is sure to attack Trump now.



Oh, yeah... In the last few days, I'd heard commentators saying that Trump was holding onto Bannon only because he was afraid of what Bannon could do -- with a mountain of inside information -- if he were unleashed.

Where's that popcorn-eating emoji?

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