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Hell, Hawk, I'm spinning in my grave, too, and I'm not even dead yet.

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Ronald Reagan, Bill Buckley, and Barry Goldwater wouldn't be too friggin' pleased either. Trump is not a conservative and he's hijacked the conservative movement.

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Yeah, he has. And a whole lot of pseudo-conservatives have been instrumental is ASSISTING him to hijack the conservative movement. I keep hoping that the true conservatives will build a third party to come up where moderate Republicans used to be, and flush the Trumpians and Tea Partiers down the toilet forever. And when the Trump collaborators show up, pretending they've stayed true all along, just keep the door locked.

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Yeah, he has. And a whole lot of pseudo-conservatives have been instrumental is ASSISTING him to hijack the conservative movement. I keep hoping that the true conservatives will build a third party to come up where moderate Republicans used to be, and flush the Trumpians and Tea Partiers down the toilet forever. And when the Trump collaborators show up, pretending they've stayed true all along, just keep the door locked.



Won't happen. Congress has fixed things so that only the two major parties can win anything.
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Yeah, he has. And a whole lot of pseudo-conservatives have been instrumental is ASSISTING him to hijack the conservative movement. I keep hoping that the true conservatives will build a third party to come up where moderate Republicans used to be, and flush the Trumpians and Tea Partiers down the toilet forever. And when the Trump collaborators show up, pretending they've stayed true all along, just keep the door locked.



Won't happen. Congress has fixed things so that only the two major parties can win anything.



Cooter is correct that a major third party will not work as long as rhe totally archaic electoral college continues to select the president. And the equally bizarre rules of the Senate, and particularly the House continue to exist.

In all honesty, i believe the Americans need to switch to a parliamentary form of government. But then again they would probably f**k it up as badly as the insanity that is the Italian Parlimen. <lol>.

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James Comey: How Trump Co-opts Leaders Like Bill Barr

Accomplished people lacking inner strength can’t resist the compromises necessary to survive this president.
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May 1, 2019


People have been asking me hard questions. What happened to the leaders in the Trump administration, especially the attorney general, Bill Barr, who I have said was due the benefit of the doubt?

How could Mr. Barr, a bright and accomplished lawyer, start channeling the president in using words like “no collusion” and [sign in to see URL]. “spying”? And downplaying acts of obstruction of justice as products of the president’s being “frustrated and angry,” something he would never say to justify the thousands of crimes prosecuted every day that are the product of frustration and anger?

How could he write and say things about the report by Robert Mueller, the special counsel, that were apparently so misleading that they prompted written protest from the special counsel himself?

How could Mr. Barr go before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday and downplay President Trump’s attempt to fire Mr. Mueller before he completed his work?

And how could Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, after the release of Mr. Mueller’s report that detailed Mr. Trump’s determined efforts to obstruct justice, give a speech quoting the president on the importance of the rule of law? Or on resigning, thank a president who relentlessly attacked both him and the Department of Justice he led for “the courtesy and humor you often display in our personal conversations”?

What happened to these people?

I don’t know for sure. People are complicated, so the answer is most likely complicated. But I have some idea from four months of working close to Mr. Trump and many more months of watching him shape others.

Amoral leaders have a way of revealing the character of those around them. Sometimes what they reveal is inspiring. For example, James Mattis, the former secretary of defense, resigned over principle, a concept so alien to Mr. Trump that it took days for the president to realize what had happened, before he could start lying about the man.

But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think that’s at least part of what we’ve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength can’t resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattis’s to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.

It starts with your sitting silent while he lies, both in public and private, making you complicit by your silence. In meetings with him, his assertions about what “everyone thinks” and what is “obviously true” wash over you, unchallenged, as they did at our private dinner on Jan. 27, 2017, because he’s the president and he rarely stops talking. As a result, Mr. Trump pulls all of those present into a silent circle of assent.

Speaking rapid-fire with no spot for others to jump into the conversation, Mr. Trump makes everyone a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions. I have felt it — this president building with his words a web of alternative reality and busily wrapping it around all of us in the room.

I must have agreed that he had the largest inauguration crowd in history because I didn’t challenge that. Everyone must agree that he has been treated very unfairly. The web building never stops.

From the private circle of assent, it moves to public displays of personal fealty at places like cabinet meetings. While the entire world is watching, you do what everyone else around the table does — you talk about how amazing the leader is and what an honor it is to be associated with him.

Sure, you notice that Mr. Mattis never actually praises the president, always speaking instead of the honor of representing the men and women of our military. But he’s a special case, right? Former Marine general and all. No way the rest of us could get away with that. So you praise, while the world watches, and the web gets tighter.

Next comes Mr. Trump attacking institutions and values you hold dear — things you have always said must be protected and which you criticized past leaders for not supporting strongly enough. Yet you are silent. Because, after all, what are you supposed to say? He’s the president of the United States.

You feel this happening. It bothers you, at least to some extent. But his outrageous conduct convinces you that you simply must stay, to preserve and protect the people and institutions and values you hold dear. Along with Republican members of Congress, you tell yourself you are too important for this nation to lose, especially now.

You can’t say this out loud — maybe not even to your family — but in a time of emergency, with the nation led by a deeply unethical person, this will be your contribution, your personal sacrifice for America. You are smarter than Donald Trump, and you are playing a long game for your country, so you can pull it off where lesser leaders have failed and gotten fired by tweet.

Of course, to stay, you must be seen as on his team, so you make further compromises. You use his language, praise his leadership, tout his commitment to values.

And then you are lost. He has eaten your soul.

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Nicolle Wallace today pointed out that the former FBI guy they have on ALL the time (and was on at that moment) resigned rather than do what was being asked of him. The guy said he knew of others in the Justice Department who had done the same. Unfortunately, it means that the only people left are appeasers and true believers. Gawd, what a mess.

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Powerful explanation from Comey of what Trump does to people in government. What a metaphor!
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Maybe it's the tough day I had with Kudo a couple of days ago, when I thought she was leaving me. Or maybe it's that I watch too much political news. Or maybe I'm a drama queen.

But, DAMN! How do we still have a constitutional republic after Trump?

I truly fear the United States of America cannot survive this.

And I have no idea what to do about it. Vote? Yes, of course. I've voted in every election in my life. But will we survive to 2020 and a new President in 2021? I'm not at all confident of that.

I think what scares me the most is that I feel in danger and impotent to do anything about it.

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I am hoping this "step out" from Burr will give other lurking Republicans at least a LITTLE bit of courage to join him in stepping forward. At the very least, if they get information out there to the public, it will keep the incentive to vote Trump out going.

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Trump.

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Except that Trump's is "Pay LOTS OF attention to the man behind the curtain."

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I am so sick and tired of being sick and tired. Now the DOJ is intervening on Manafort’s behalf so that he will not have to serve time on Riker’s Island. It just never ends.
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Seriously??? I hadn't heard that. Man, it never DOES end, does it?

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