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Aw, Badhorsie, I'm sorry things are so rough right now. emoticon It sounds like you made a very wise decision to skip the conventions.

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I skipped them too, badhorsie. I'm screwed up in the head as much as it is already! LOL!!
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I didn’t watch 100% of either convention, but I felt that the Dems projected an upbeat message, while it looked like Debbie Downer produced the GOP convention.
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I watched almost 100% of both conventions and I'd say Birdz has summarized them correctly.

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Trump encourages North Carolina residents to vote twice to test mail-in system

The president said it would be a way to check whether anti-fraud efforts are "as good as they say."

Sept. 2, 2020, 3:28 PM PDT / Updated Sept. 2, 2020, 5:32 PM PDT
By Lauren Egan and Pete Williams


WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump suggested that people in North Carolina should vote twice in the November election, once by mail and once in person, escalating his attempts to cast confusion and doubt on the validity of the results.

"So let them send it in and let them go vote, and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote," Trump said when asked whether he has confidence in the mail-in system in North Carolina, a battleground state.

"If it's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. If it isn't tabulated, they'll be able to vote. So that's the way it is. And that's what they should do," he said.

It is illegal to vote more than once in an election.

Trump has made countless false statements about the security of voting by mail ahead of the election as much of the country braces for an increase of voters who opt for mail-in ballots during the coronavirus pandemic.

The Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee have sued states that have moved to expand access to mail-in voting in response to the pandemic, including Nevada, New Jersey and Montana.

"President Trump encourages supporters to vote absentee-by-mail early, and then show up in person at the polls or the local registrar to verify that their vote has already been counted," Trump campaign official Tim Murtaugh said. "It’s amazing that the media can go from insisting that voter fraud doesn’t exist to screaming about it when President Trump points out the giant holes in the Democrats’ voting schemes.”

Despite Trump's claims that mail-in ballots lead to widespread fraud that benefits Democrats, there is no clear evidence that suggests that either party gains an advantage with mail-in voting.

More at: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-encourages-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-test-mail-system-n1239140

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I believe Trump re-iterated that recommendation to "vote twice" yesterday, even after the White House had issued a statement saying the media took his original vote-twice plea "out of context."

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Out of context my ass! Reporting what he actually said is not "out of context"!

Some things that I am reading make me want to begin stockpiling bourbon because I may well need it. *sigh*
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He did re-iterate it. He said it in Georgia.
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Isn’t it a crime to encourage others to commit a crime?
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Yes, and it's in the North Carolina statute, that anyone who encourages another to vote more than once is committing a felony. I don't know whether that's in the Georgia statute or not.
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He's obviously immune from the law.
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And he knows that at this stage, Congress won’t impeach him.

I just don’t remember seeing such obvious efforts to rig an election as I’m seeing now. I’m sure it went on, but it was usually done discreetly. Or so it seemed.

I’m feeling very disillusioned about my country right now. It’s not the same country that I grew up to love and never consider emigrating. Now I feel like I’d like to do just that. Don’t know where.
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Second judge rules against USPS, says election mail must be prioritized
By Marshall Cohen, Paul P. Murphy, Katelyn Polanz and Sonia Moghe - CNN
Mon, September 21, 2020

The US Postal Service must prioritize election mail and reverse some key policy changes imposed by Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, a federal judge ruled on Monday, saying that "managerial failures" at the agency undermined the public's faith in mail-in voting.

US District Judge Victor Marrero in New York's Southern District became the second federal judge to side against USPS in the past week. A judge in Washington state ordered many similar changes on Friday and blasted the Trump administration for what he called a "politically motivated attack" on USPS.

In the Monday ruling, Marrero said USPS will be required to treat all election mail as first-class mail or priority mail express, and that USPS will need to "pre-approve" all overtime requests for the two weeks surrounding Election Day, to make sure absentee ballots are processed properly.

"The right to vote is too vital a value in our democracy to be left in a state of suspense in the minds of voters weeks before a presidential election, raising doubts as to whether their votes will ultimately be counted," Marrero wrote.

"While the court has no doubts that the Postal Service's workforce comprises hardworking and dedicated public servants, multiple managerial failures have undermined the postal employees' ability to fulfill their vital mission," he added.

These changes will go into effect on Friday, the judge said. He told the parties to reach a settlement that includes his directives, but if they don't reach an agreement by midday Friday, a judicial order imposing the changes will automatically kick in.

If USPS can't agree to put in place these changes, Marrero says he'll take several steps to force USPS to improve its mail delivery and policies under a court order.

He will order the USPS to draft, and implement, a cohesive plan to restore on-time delivery performance to pre-July levels. USPS must then produce service reports and variance reports for the court.

"The Postal Service is reviewing the court's decision," USPS spokesperson Marti Johnson said, responding to the decision.

"There should be no doubt, however, that the Postal Service is ready and fully committed to handling expected increased volumes of Election Mail between now and the conclusion of the November 3rd election," Johnson added. "Our number one priority is to deliver the nation's Election Mail securely and in a timely fashion."

Under a court order, the USPS would have to pre-approve all overtime between October 26 and November 6. USPS would also have to circulate a company-wide memo making clear that late trips for mail trucks will be encouraged for transporting election mail and do not require special approval -- undoing some of DeJoy's signature policy changes.

DeJoy imposed significant restrictions on late and extra trips on July 10, which the USPS has since acknowledged caused significant mail delays.

The USPS has claimed that those delays have improved, but it has still not returned to its pre-July levels.

"The Postal Service has long promised that '[n]either snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds," said Remy Green, an attorney for the plaintiffs that sued USPS, which include New York voters and candidates for public office. "

Ali Najmi, another attorney for the plaintiffs, told CNN they would be speaking with USPS attorneys later today to start talking about settling the case.

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AwRIGHT!
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Over the weekend, I checked the VT Sec of State's Web site to track where Lauren's and my ballots were. The status simply said that they had been "ISSUED". This was worrisome because we dropped our ballots off at the dropbox at the Town Police Station on Sunday, October 4th.

I called the Town Clerk's office today and was told they have the same status in their system. In other words, they don't know where our ballots are.

What makes this all the more perplexing is that the Police Station is in the same building at the Town Clerk's office. They are literally one floor apart from each other.

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That is worrisome, Peter. I wonder how many other ballots have gone into the void.

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It pays to check on-line and then to follow up. The Town Clerk told me that if they are unable to determine where the ballots are that they will issue us new ones.

I'm not sure if I'll vote early again. I may just run the gauntlet on Election Day instead.

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Sorry about your ballot worries, Peter.
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The last time I voted in person in either a primary or general election was 2012. If I have to do it this time, I will.

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Brett and I went to vote this afternoon. There were about 10 people in line ahead of us. It took us a grand total of 5 minutes to get through the line. All of the poll workers were friendly and efficient. They even offered us hand sanitizer on our way out. Nice! Easy, peasy.

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