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Politics and Mental Health


Are both in jeopardy?


Political change and mental health

21 March 2019

Political uncertainty can be challenging, regardless of our beliefs or where we might fall on the political spectrum.

https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/blog/political-change-brexit-research

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The Trump depression (and we don't mean the economy): Key symptom of autocratic regimes

September 15, 2019 5:08PM (UTC)

Experts see a "population-based depression" taking hold in America. But it might force us toward positive change

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/15/the-trump-depression-and-we-dont-mean-the-economy-key-symptom-of-autocratic-regimes/

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Today’s Politics May Be Bad for Your Health

Oct. 7, 2019 9:43 am E

Citizens in a new study blame U.S. politics for stress, depression, lost sleep and other physical and mental problems

https://www.wsj.com/articles/todays-political-climate-is-bad-for-some-americans-health-11570455824

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Why Is America So Depressed?

Jan. 2, 2020

It’s no coincidence that our politics and our mental health have declined so rapidly, at the same time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/opinion/depression-america-trump.html

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Several of us have admitted to being seriously down. I've battled the blues and anxiety over the past couple of years. Last summer, losing my dog of 16 years, Kudo, hit me much harder than it may have if I'd been in better mental condition to begin with. I suspect that any number of life events affect me more than they might have if I weren't already in tough shape.

I think most of us believe we can't be down in public and, if we are down it's bad form to admit it or inflict ourselves on others. And yet, this is when we need the support of others the most.

I wake up most mornings with a sweet dog next to me in the bed. I feel good for a few moments until I remember that Donald Trump is President. Then my stomach knots up and I feel anxious.

I suspect I'm not alone.

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No, you're not alone, Robbie. I'm susceptible to long periods of depression, and it's chronic anyway. It's just a matter of it being chronic major depression or chronic depression. Along with another half-dozen mental health diagnoses.

But as I said in the Rumpus Room, I appreciate this space so much. It provides enough distance that I don't have to look anyone in the eye, but the kind of long-term friendships that allow us to truly care about the other humans behind these screens.

I've found myself absolutely exhausted by Trump and his minions. And as we're learning, that's how he grabs and maintains control -- it's easier to capitulate than to fight. But if we don't fight...who have we become?

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I'm more pissed off at the morons who will keep this moron in office and elected him to start with. I can't help but be down some about it, and being an attorney I'm seriously pissed off about the Rule Of Law and our Constitution and the laws that come from it being completely abrogated as if they have no place in our government.

I just refuse to allow myself to lose my self because of it. I focus more on the good things in my life such as all of you and what we mean to each other. Cats alter your mood positively if you have one or more. That's the truth. My best friend was about as far down as he could get years ago and I pushed him into getting a cat, so he got sisters. He said they changed his life. If he was out of it when he got home they completely changed his mood when they got up with him and started purring.
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I can certainly understand what you say about your friend's response to cats, Cooter. I'm sure you've all seen the bumper sticker promoting adopting an animal from a shelter that says "Who rescued who?"

Indeed.

Badhorsie, I'm going to stick my nose where it may not belong, and if I'm overstepping feel free to tell me.

When I let Kudo go I thought I'd never get another dog. I'm 76 years old and, while I'm in decent health now, who knows how long that will last? If I outlive a new pet, is that totally unfair to that pet?

And besides, I loved Kudo beyond all reason. I got her as an 11-week-old puppy and spent her entire life with her. I couldn't imagine having that kind of relationship with another dog.

I lasted three weeks and missed having an animal companion terribly. I missed Kudo, to be exact, and grieved her loss. But I started looking at our local humane society's web site and there, one day, was Jackson.

He was 5 years old, so there wasn't the puppy bonding I'd had with Kudo. And he came with some real issues, chiefly dog aggression, that we're still working on. I would say I'm very fond of him but I don't love him as I did Kudo.

But I'm very glad I got him. His personality is totally different from Kudo's, which is probably lucky because it keeps me from trying to turn him into Kudo. And it's utterly obvious he's grateful to have been adopted. He's a complete love sponge.

All that is a lead-in to my encouragement to you to look at your local animal shelter and see if there isn't a cat that would be ever-so appreciative to have you to live with and would purr on your lap to express its thanks. It's not unfaithfulness to Teddi or Teddi's memory. To the contrary, it's a testimony to Teddi's ability to make living with a cat such a wonderful experience for you.

And having butting in, I will now butt out.

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I love "Who rescued who?"
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What Robbie said.
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I'm with Robbie. emoticon

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I'm thinking that each of of us who loves and animal and loses that animal has our own length of time before we can get another one. It was months before I could bear the thought of getting another cat after I lost Mousette, but when that day came, it was a craving. I wonder what it would have been like, bonding with another cat, if one had been thrust upon me. The bonding might have been instant. I might have just THOUGHT I couldn't want that cat until it was in my arms and looking up at me and purring. Or maybe sneezing.
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I'm thinking that each of of us who loves and animal and loses that animal has our own length of time before we can get another one.



That is probably true.

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What everyone else said. I lost Mozart 15 years ago and I still miss him terribly. I now have three cockatoos and one eclectic parrot, and one of the ‘toos is Mozart’s brother (same parents, but not nest mates)! But none of them can take Mozart’s place. I love them all dearly and they all occupy a different space in my heart.
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I lost Buddy at age twelve. Rose was ten at the time. Losing Buddy just devastated me. After a few weeks of crying, I realized that Rose was trying to take Buddy's place in a way with doing some of his things that he did with me and taking care of Daddy. She was a sweetie and became my lap baby. Both of them slept with me although there were fights for the desirable place. They didn't last long. Rose was with me 8 more years. I let her got at 18 and I had adopted her when she was two.

I started looking at the cats in Pet Smart I guess 4 weeks or so after I said goodbye to Rose. I saw Shadow, told the Manager I wanted to visit with her ( I love black cats! ) and after a few minutes told him that she was mine! He said I had to deal with the Animal Shelter and I told him that wouldn't be a problem.

Close to 3 years later I have a loving cat in spite of some fits and starts that most of you are aware of. She turned out to be the right one, although I believe that any one that I chose would have been the right one. I just felt that instant connection with Shadow.
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I fell in love with Mousette when a friend showed me her picture. She was beautiful, black with long fur and green eyes; but her charm was in the way she was sitting. When I met her in person, she leapt up on the chair next to me and start purring like a freight train. When my friend died, he left her to me.
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11 MONTHS FROM TODAY

A second term for Trump seems more possible than ever: But what would it look like?

New York Magazine

February 17 - March 1 2020

Extraordinary Stress

In the past four years, I saw people in my clinical practice experiencing a level of anxiety specific to the political climate that we really hadn't seen before. It's why I started writing about "Trump anxiety disorder."

The American Psychological Association does a "Stress in America" survey, and the 2019 one had 62 percent of American adults citing the current political climate as a source of stress, which has gone up since Trump took office. It's not unlike a child living in a home that's chaotic; we don't have faith in the leaders we have historically put trust in, and that's creating a lot of trauma.

If Trump does get reelected, we'll see a spike in this feeling of fear like we haven't seen before. People will have to come to terms with the prospect of another four years of trying to keep up the fight.

We can feel anxious for only so long, because anxiety is exhausting, and eventually that fatigue could transform into depression and leave us feeling really helpless. All of that could lead to more civil unrest or unhealthy behaviors such as drinking and emotional eating -- people trying to deal with the stress in any way they can.

--Dr. Jennifer Panning

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To maintain my diminishing mental health, I have once again given up Trump for Lent. When his voice comes on the radio, I turn it off. When he shows up on TV, I change the channel.

I will confess I also have added Bernie to my Lenten abstentions, but not as strictly. I do turn the radio off and I mute his voice on TV.

Mayor Pete's ads here in Colorado also have his voice at high volume.

I'm really tired of people who shout all the time.

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I'm glad you started this topic, Robbie.

While I've always dealt with levels of depression/anxiety, and find my life difficult, Trump has made those afflictions skyrocket. Additionally, anger toward him, his policies and supporters fester daily. He makes me feel abused. I suspect many more people feel these things lately, and some may not recognize that it is the political climate that's causing it.

As for adopting a cat, I've been casually looking at adoption sites. For health reasons and other reasons, I want a certain type of cat. I have a lung disease and am on home oxygen pretty much 24/7. I can die from a cold or need hospitalization with no notice.

Teddi was a placid cat with little curiosity. She was declawed (before I got her), didn't jump around on furniture, and didn't bother my many plants, most of which are toxic to cats. Still, she along with the 25 foot oxygen cord I wear in the house were real tripping hazards. I stepped on her or nearly fell over her many times.

The cat I had before her, Cato, was a terror. He had tantrums when he didn't get his way. He destroyed everything in the house with his claws, including window screens and doors. He constantly chewed on electrical cords and caused a small explosion/fire once. He jumped on the gas stove and snatched food out of boiling hot pans (he had no whiskers because he burned them off).

Still, I loved Cato and had him for 16 years. But I want another Teddi. So I'm thinking of a senior cat, but I don't want a sickly one, I've been through that. My sole income is social security and Teddy really depleted that income in her last five years.

So I guess I'm picky. I have no current way of going to shelters to look either.

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Badhorsie, I hadn't realized you are dealing with physical limitations. You say you are picky, but obviously you need to be picky.

I hope the information that shelters put online can give you a good sense of what any particular cat might be like to live with.

As for depression and anxiety skyrocketing, so it is with me. Like Susie, I will no longer watch or listen to Trump and, like Susie, I'm about the same place with Bernie. And Elizabeth Warren often speaks in hair-on-fire breathless tones. I'd like all of them to stop yelling at me.

I'm glad this group can hang in there with each other. I need all of you a lot these days.

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I too have felt some anxiety and depression as the result of trump. And the way the Democrats are carrying on, I’m afraid that they’re practically giving trump a second term, which scares the !@#$ out of me.

I’m scared that his administration will botch up the handling of the coronavirus outbreak, at the cost of lives needlessly lost, not to mention the harmful effect on the economy.

I pray for trump to be a one term president.
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I hope the coronavirus knows about karma.
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 And Elizabeth Warren often speaks in hair-on-fire breathless tones. I'd like all of them to stop yelling at me.



That's why I enjoyed the CNN "town hall" discussions this week. Elizabeth and others were far more soft-spoken, and didn't seem to be yelling at me and the world. I was really able to listen to her, and she made more sense to me than she did in the debate format. Bernie, not so much. He still shouted and waved his arms, although he wasn't talking "over" someone else.
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