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      Thanks for the comments and the interesting family history. You are correct that it a Tory dominated parliament would never willingly agree to a referendum on Scottish independance but these are strange and very volatile times and I am minded of Margaret Thatcher's flagship policy on local taxes (the infamous Poll tax) which was unassailable until Scotland led the rebellion. My own feeling is that as the complexity and implications of Brexit begin to bite the people will realise the reality of the situation that they have bought a pig in a poke. Then all bets are off. The situation in Northern Ireland is of course more complex but Johnsons much vaunted Brexit deal effectively pushes NI closer to Eire and away from Britain at a time when the age old divisor of religion is fast losing its influence both sides of the border and at a time when the results of the Good Friday peace agreement+ EU membership was producing positive economic gains. I doubt that the Pope or homage to King Billy is really potent enough to sustain sufficient traction to keep a nation divided for much longer. Add into this the fact that NI has a constitutional right to a referendum on unification and also effectively has the EU as the custodian of its rights.
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Joe, what do you think about Scotland and N. I. joining the Scandinavian economic group? I’m impressed by the influence of Norway in both places.
12/18/2019, 12:45 am Link to this post PM Ol Perf
 
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Given that I'm of Scots and North Irish heritage, I assume I'm part Scandinavian, anyway.

That sounds like a good economic group for Scotland and North Ireland to join.

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Should Scotland get its independance in the next few years I think its principle aim would be to rejoin the EU but the Scandinavian option would have a lot of attractions as there are both ancient and quite recent close links between them.
In the longer term though I am hoping that brexit will act as a wake up call to the EU to get serious about much needed reforms to its structure rather than risk other nations following the English example. If it does and emerges stronger from the experience then I have no doubt England will be asking to rejoin. I deliberately use English rather than British in this context because it is England that is only nation in Great Britain that has any enthusiasm at all for Brexit and it is worth remembering the the percentages in the referendum were 52%/48% and around a million Ex Pats living in the EU were not allowed a vote. The various Brexit factions and Boris Johnson have since the referendum talked up the result as a decisive victory for the will of the people. It was nothing of the sort and now the chickens will really becoming home to roost as Johnson now has to deliver on his promises.
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