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This one made my heart sing. emoticon



This one, and the one regarding the rights of LGBTQ people, Lis!

Could it be that Roberts actually has developed a conscience? There are more important decisions to come...
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Next, kick Trump v. Vance to the curb and force the release of Trump's taxes to the Manhattan District Attorney.

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Although Roberts is a conservative, I have thought for some time that he was serious about examining the cases to make the correct decisions -- not just left/right "we win" majorities. Those are hollow victories. And they do not promote good government.

I think that what was PARTICULARLY egregious about the DACA case was that children were being punished for the crimes of their parents. In NO other case do we do such a thing.

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(NBC News) - Supreme Court to decide if House gets Mueller grand jury material

The U.S. Supreme Court said Thursday it will decide this fall whether House investigators can get access to grand jury material gathered by Robert Mueller's special counsel team.

The court's action means the House Judiciary Committee will have to wait several more months before finding out whether it can see the material, which includes an unredacted copy of Mueller's report along with some of the documents and interviews referred to by the blacked-out items.

House Democrats told the court that its investigations of President Donald Trump "did not cease with the conclusion of the impeachment trial" in February.



Again, I wish the courts could act more quickly.... I'm assuming that the Court is wrapping up this session and won't be back in session until the first Monday in October -- and I doubt they'd be able to hear the case and render their decision before the election.

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Monday could be big. My understanding is that beginning at 10AM, the Court is ready to hand down some big ones. I hope we hear about Trump v. Vance then.

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I always thought they finished up announcing their opinions for the year by the end of June. Maybe my memory is bad, or maybe there are delays because of the virus. Thanks for the heads up, Streamline. I'll look forward to it.

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This year ain't been anywhere NEAR normal, Lis. But I digress. emoticon

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Roberts has come back.....that's COME BACK....to support the Rule Of Law. Among other things I am so pleased to see him consider Stare Decisis to be really.....that's REALLY...important.
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Me, too, Cooter.

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(NBC News) - Supreme Court rules Electoral College members cannot go rogue

The 538 people who cast the actual votes for president in December as part of the Electoral College are not free agents and must vote as the laws of their states direct, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday. The ruling in the "faithless elector" case was a defeat for advocates of changing the Electoral College, who hoped a win would force a shift in the method of electing presidents toward a nationwide popular vote. But it was a win for state election officials, who feared that empowering rogue electors would cause chaos.

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(NBC News) - Supreme Court rules Electoral College members cannot go rogue

The 538 people who cast the actual votes for president in December as part of the Electoral College are not free agents and must vote as the laws of their states direct, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday. The ruling in the "faithless elector" case was a defeat for advocates of changing the Electoral College, who hoped a win would force a shift in the method of electing presidents toward a nationwide popular vote. But it was a win for state election officials, who feared that empowering rogue electors would cause chaos.



They are trying other means of moving toward a nationwide popular vote, but it's not going to be easy.
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No, it won't. Especially when you need the overrepresented small states to agree to give up their power with the change.

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(CNN) - Chief Justice John Roberts was hospitalized in June after a fall

Chief Justice John Roberts was hospitalized on June 21 after falling while walking near his home, a spokeswoman for the Supreme Court said Monday.

"The Chief Justice was treated at a local hospital on June 21 for an injury to his forehead sustained in a fall while walking for exercise near his home," said Kathy Arberg, public information officer for the Supreme Court. The fall happened at the Chevy Chase Club, according to a source familiar with the matter.

"The injury required sutures, and out of an abundance of caution, he stayed in the hospital overnight and was discharged the next morning. His doctors ruled out a seizure. They believe the fall was likely due to light-headedness caused by dehydration."

The Washington Post was first to report that Roberts had gone to the hospital.

The fall came three days after Roberts sided with the court's liberal justices to block the Trump administration's attempt to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program on June 18 and six days after he sided with the liberals in a case that extended anti-discrimination protections to LGBTQ workers.


They sure managed to keep THAT quiet!

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(NBC News) - In win for Trump, Supreme Court allows plan for religious limits to Obamacare contraceptive coverage

The Supreme Court voted 7-2 on Wednesday to uphold the Trump administration's plan to give the nation's employers more leeway in refusing to provide free birth control for their workers. The ruling was a victory for a program that will greatly expand the kinds of employers who could cite religious or moral objections in declining to include contraceptives in their health care plans.


Because, of course, I must adhere to my BOSS's sexual mores. Got it.

The Court has announced that it will release all of its remaining opinions for this term tomorrow morning.

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I fail to see where contraception including in health insurance prevents an employer who is paying all or part of it from practicing his/her/corporate religion. These cases are bullshit. They allow one or more people in case of a corporation to dictate religion to others in these cases under state/federal law. Balderdash, I say!
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Supreme Court set to decide who can see Trump’s tax returns, financial records
By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY - POLITICO
07/08/2020 06:27 PM EDT
Updated: 07/08/2020 10:52 PM EDT

The Supreme Court is set to unveil its decision on Thursday about whether Congress gets to see President Donald Trump’s tax returns and financial records, a ruling that could reshape the balance of power between lawmakers and the White House in the most dramatic way since Watergate.

The court’s final opinion day of its 2019-20 term also includes a related dispute about whether New York prosecutors can similarly access Trump’s financial records, held by his accounting firm and banks.

A decision to reject Trump’s legal challenges could result in voters getting to see the tax returns he has resisted disclosing since launching his presidential campaign in 2015. The justices are also set to rule on grand jury subpoenas that a Manhattan prosecutor is using to demand many of the same tax and financial records in a criminal investigation that appears to be focused on the tax practices of Trump’s business empire.

The president sent personal lawyers to argue against both sets of subpoenas, and he seems unlikely to hold back if the rulings go against him, especially if Republican-appointed justices or his own appointees vote against him.

After a pair of losses last month in cases involving LGBTQ rights in the workplace and the administration’s effort to end protections for so-called Dreamers, Trump invoked unusually vivid imagery as he lashed out at the court and tried to turn the defeats into a campaign issue.

“These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives,” Trump wrote. “We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020! “

While rulings in the closely watched subpoena cases could affect the president’s reelection bid, the decisions could also redefine Congress’ oversight powers and the ability of state and local prosecutors to explore potential criminality on the part of the president or his associates. At the heart of both cases are questions about whether third-party companies, like Trump’s accounting firm Mazars USA, can be compelled to produce the president’s personal documents while he’s in office.

By releasing decisions into July, the Supreme Court has parted with its usual practice over the last few decades of issuing its final — and most controversial — opinions of the term on one of the last days of June, a departure that coincides with broader delays resulting from the coronavirus pandemic.

Covid-19 outbreaks in the United States led the court to suspend in-person arguments, hold its first-ever telephone arguments and push some cases into the fall. The Trump subpoena cases were originally set to be heard on March 31, but the actual, virtual arguments were conducted on May 12.

The justices have left only one other case to their final opinion day: a dispute over whether a large swath of eastern Oklahoma is actually an Indian reservation.

The fact that rulings are expected in the Trump-focused cases does not promise that they will definitively resolve those cases or ensure that they will be decided with finality before the November election. It is possible that in either or both cases the justices could articulate a legal standard to apply, but not dictate an outcome and instead tell lower courts to delve into the issues again.

And even a ruling in Congress’ favor doesn’t guarantee that lawmakers will move to make Trump’s tax returns public before November.

Still, while the New York prosecutor’s investigation could be considered more urgent legally, since it involves a criminal investigation, the House inquiries may pack more of a political punch. That’s because while records turned over under a grand jury subpoena are required to be kept secret at least until charges are filed, lawmakers are under no such obligation and could release the Trump financial files in the lead-up to the election.

At issue in the House case are subpoenas that House committees issued last year to Mazars USA, as well as major Trump lenders Deutsche Bank and Capital One. All the queries, according to lawmakers, are intended to inform efforts to update ethics, disclosure and money laundering laws, as well as those pertaining to foreign influence in elections and government.

But Trump’s legal team argued that the demands were tantamount to political harassment, and that the House’s claims of a “legislative purpose” were a pretense to simply investigate the president.

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A state grand jury in NY may well get to see them. It's still up to lower court action.

It's too bad the Federalist Society couldn't find another Gorsuch instead of little dipshit.
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Looks like Judge Victor Marrero is going to put this one right at the top of his "To-Do" list, Jep.

After court loss, Trump's N.Y. tax case back to judge who called immunity claim 'repugnant'
Federal Judge Victor Marrero called the president's immunity claim "repugnant to the nation's governmental structure and constitutional values."

July 10, 2020, 5:22 PM EDT
By Tom Winter, Pete Williams and Dartunorro Clark - NBC

The federal judge overseeing President Donald Trump’s tax case on Friday quickly ordered Trump’s attorneys and the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office to outline the next steps in a battle over the president’s tax documents a day after the Supreme Court's decision in the case.

Judge Victor Marrero of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York on Friday ordered that Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. and Trump's lawyers inform his court by Thursday about any “potential areas for further argument" after the Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the president is not immune from having to respond to a grand jury subpoena.

Thursday's ruling isn't expected to result in Trump's tax returns becoming public before the November election.

Marrero presided over the initial legal challenge by Trump's lawyers who sought to block Vance from getting tax documents from Mazars USA, the president's accounting firm.

Trump's lawyers argued the president is immune from state prosecutions. But last October, Marrero tossed the lawsuit out, ruling in a 75-page order that the immunity claim was "repugnant to the nation's governmental structure and constitutional values."

Vance wants years worth of Trump's tax returns as part of his probe into hush-money payments made to two women during the 2016 presidential election. Marrero previously ruled that the tax documents from Mazars USA should be handed over to the grand jury, which prompted the appeals fight that landed at the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court largely sided with Marrero, writing that the president could be forced to produce the documents.

"Since the earliest days of the Republic, 'every man' has included the president of the United States. Beginning with Jefferson and carrying on through Clinton, presidents have uniformly testified or produced documents in criminal proceedings when called upon by federal courts," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in a 7-2 opinion for the majority.

"(W)e cannot conclude that absolute immunity is necessary or appropriate under Article II or the Supremacy Clause."

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A state grand jury in NY may well get to see them. It's still up to lower court action.

It's too bad the Federalist Society couldn't find another Gorsuch instead of little dipshit.


Yeah.... I wasn't a fan of Gorsuch, primarily because his was a stolen seat. But he had nothing to do with that; he's just the guy that was the choice of the people who did it. But so far, I'm impressed with him. I don't always agree with him, or course, but he seems to be a serious voice on the court, escaping the partisanship that Republicans demand.

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After court loss, Trump's N.Y. tax case back to judge who called immunity claim 'repugnant'


I'm glad to see that FINALLY an entity with teeth is declaring -- forcefully -- that the president is subject to the laws, too. It's interesting that Trump was whining all up and down twitter, saying it wasn't fair. Aw, poor baby.

I thought it was particularly good that both Gorsuch and Kavanaugh voted against Trump. One more lesson on how he just can't buy or bribe or threaten everyone....

I saw Adam Schiff on TV last night, saying that the House committees were already working on the four items the Supreme Court asked the House to clarify for the lower court. They're trying to go as quickly as they can, but they don't have any illusions that they'll get the information released before the election.

But seriously, I doubt Trump's tax information would actually change anyone's mind about voting for him.

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