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Supreme embarrassment: The flush heard around the country
By Ariane de Vogue, CNN Supreme Court Reporter
Updated 5:01 PM ET, Wed May 6, 2020

(CNN)Well, someone forgot to mute.

The Supreme Court was making history Wednesday afternoon, holding arguments over the phone because of Covid-19, when all of a sudden there was the distinct sound of a toilet flushing.

Across the country, the public that has never before this week been able to listen in real time to oral arguments held remotely was treated not only to deep questions related to the First Amendment and robocalls but also to someone's apparent bathroom break.

The errant flush from an unknown source comes as the justices, lawyers and the country are dealing with the new realities -- and hazards -- of conducting their business over teleconference lines.

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There has been talk about putting all oral arguments on the net live instead of recorded arguments on the weekend. I would think that they may limit who can log in.
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Trump ignores Barr, asks Supreme Court to destroy the entire ACA

With an ACA case pending at the Supreme Court, Barr wanted Trump to choose a more responsible course. Trump decided not to care.

May 7, 2020, 5:00 AM PDT
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As the deadly pandemic continues to take its toll, the Affordable Care Act is providing an important lifeline to millions of Americans. The future of the health care reform law, however, remains very much in doubt.

A Republican lawsuit is pending at the U.S. Supreme Court, and with the White House's blessing, the litigants are asking the justices to destroy "Obamacare" in its entirety. In defiance of common sense and basic human decency, the fact that the case is unfolding during the coronavirus crisis has not deterred its GOP proponents. In fact, Donald Trump said as recently as late March that the pandemic has not affected his support for the lawsuit.

It was against this backdrop that Attorney General Bill Barr reportedly met with top Team Trump officials on Monday, arguing that the administration was making a mistake asking the high court to uproot the entire American health care system during a public-health crisis. The Republican lawyer said there was still time to amend the White House's position.

The president has apparently decided to ignore Barr's advice. Politico reported yesterday:

    President Donald Trump on Wednesday said his administration will urge the Supreme Court to overturn Obamacare, maintaining its all-out legal assault on the health care law amid a pandemic that will drive millions of more Americans to depend on its coverage.

When Barr made his case on Monday, he reportedly told top White House officials that they had the option of asking the justices to rule against elements of the ACA, while leaving key benefits to families in place. Trump, however, appears determined to do catastrophic damage to his own country's health care system.

"What we want to do is terminate [the ACA] and give great health care," the president said. "And we'll have great health care." (We've been waiting for five years to see Trump's plan for "great health care." It still does not exist.)

In other words, as COVID-19 kills tens of thousands of Americans, Donald Trump believes the smartest course of action is to ask Supreme Court conservatives to strip tens of millions of families of their health security -- without the existence of a suitable replacement.

The deadline for the administration to change its position was yesterday. If the president's comments accurately reflected the White House's position, Barr's plea to Team Trump failed.
The Supreme Court will hear arguments in the fall.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-ignores-barr-asks-supreme-court-destroy-entire-aca-n1201881

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If the president's comments accurately reflected the White House's position, Barr's plea to Team Trump failed.

If only Trump would fail.

Quickly.

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Maybe I'm missing something about today's Supreme Court hearings about Trump's taxes.

Sekulow's entire argument seemed to be that that president was just too busy to be spending time responding to subpoenas.

Except Trump wasn't subpoenaed. His accountant/tax preparer was. And why would it be inconvenient for a firm to put together the documents?

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And even if Trump had to participate in the preparation of the response to the subpoena, how busy is the Tweet in Chief, anyway?

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Here are a couple of stories on the USSC's hearing of the tax returns cases:

From THE HILL and from NBC.

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(NBC News) - Supreme Court seems reluctant to unbind 'faithless electors' who could 'create chaos' in presidential contests

The justices of the Supreme Court seemed reluctant Wednesday to tamper with the system America uses to choose its president, based on their comments during oral arguments over the workings of the Electoral College.
The issue in the two "faithless elector" cases is a simple one: Are the 538 presidential electors free agents, or must they vote in line with the election results in their states? If they are free to vote as they wish, a small group could decide who wins. Justice Clarence Thomas even invoked a character from "Lord of the Rings" to make his point.


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(NBC News) - In big win for gay rights, Supreme Court rules federal law protects gay and lesbian workers

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that existing federal law forbids job discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, a major victory for advocates of gay rights — and a surprising one from an increasingly conservative court.

The 6-3 decision said Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which makes it illegal for employers to discriminate because of a person's sex, among other factors, also covers sexual orientation.



Surprise swings from Roberts and Gorsuch, with Gorsuch writing the majority opinion. It was OBVIOUSLY necessary, but Alito was predictably whining that this should be achieved by legislation rather than judicial action. When the legislature CONSISTENTLY refuses to do so, people reach for a judicial interpretation.

I'm wondering if Trump will try to fire Gorsuch, and then implode when he's told he can't.

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I'm wondering if Trump will try to fire Gorsuch, and then implode when he's told he can't.



Heh heh heh... I've been wondering the same thing.

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Borowitz answers your question, Lis:

Mitch McConnell Gently Tells Trump Why He Can’t Fire Neil Gorsuch

By Andy Borowitz
June 15, 2020

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In an Oval Office meeting described as “tense,” the Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell, explained to Donald J. Trump why he cannot fire Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch.

According to sources, McConnell rushed to the White House after being informed of Trump’s plan to terminate Gorsuch and replace him with the Fox News host Jeanine Pirro.

In the Oval Office, Trump adamantly told McConnell, “When I hire someone, I have the right to fire him if he turns out to be a jerk.”

McConnell slowly and carefully explained that Supreme Court Justices are appointed for life, but Trump refused to accept this position.

“I can fire this Neil Gorsuch joker just like I fired Jeff Sessions and Gary Busey,” Trump said, adding that he planned to add a ramp outside the Supreme Court to speed Gorsuch’s departure.

https://tinyurl.com/ycr63ya5
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LOL, he's good, Belle. emoticon

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quote:

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I'm wondering if Trump will try to fire Gorsuch, and then implode when he's told he can't.



Heh heh heh... I've been wondering the same thing.



Gorsuch COULD be impeached by the Senate, couldn't he? Maybe Trump could get his friend Moscow Mitch to do that...
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(NBC News) - In big win for gay rights, Supreme Court rules federal law protects gay and lesbian workers



I can't tell you how delighted I am with this decision, including the fact that it protects transgender people, too.

And I'm especially pleased that a former critic of Gorsuch noted that one reason for his decision was because he attended an "open and affirming Episcopal church when he lived outside of Boulder."

It remains to be seen whether the current administration will be required to reinstate health care guarantees for transgender people, however.
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Actually, the House would have to impeach Gorsuch before the Senate could hold an impeachment trial.
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Exactly, Belle. And even then, they'd have to have a 2/3 vote of the Senate to remove him. And as sick of politics as people are today, any such attempt would kill a party's ability to get anything done.

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Actually, the House would have to impeach Gorsuch before the Senate could hold an impeachment trial.



Obviously, you're right. Duh! How could I not remember that.

I don't think the House would move to impeach Gorsuch for that opinion, however, since it mirrors what most Dems believe and for now, the Dems control the House.
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Supreme Court blocks Trump from ending DACA
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By Ariane de Vogue and Devan Cole, CNN
Updated 10:20 AM ET, Thu June 18, 2020

The Supreme Court on Thursday blocked the Trump administration's attempt to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an Obama-era program that protects hundreds of thousands of immigrants brought to the US as children from deportation.

The 5-4 ruling was written by Chief Justice John Roberts and joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Elena Kagan, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor.

The opinion marks the second time in a week when the Supreme Court -- bolstered with two of President Donald Trump's nominees -- has ruled against the Trump administration.
 
The court's ruling will allow the DACA recipients to continue to renew membership in the program that offers them work authorization and temporary protection from deportation.

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I am so glad to hear that, Peter! I know a young DACA woman. She has put herself through college to learn to be a social worker. She is only one example of people who have worked for and deserve citizenship.
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This one made my heart sing. emoticon

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