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Mueller couldn't definitively conclude that Trump knew he couldn't accept a "thing of value" from a foreign government when he accepted help from Russia. Now he has told us he knows it, but is willing to do it anyway and wouldn't find it necessary to tell the FBI.

C'mon, Nancy Pelosi, how much do you need?



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Unfortunately, saying that you are willing to commit a crime isn't the same as actually committing it. It does however offer clear proof as to his thinking on the subject and that begs investigating what he and his crew might have done 3-4 years ago.



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He already did it, Peter (Russia, if you're listening...). Now he's saying he'd do it again.



If the House began impeachment hearings and if that lead to Articles of Impeachment being drawn up and voted on, and if the entire House moved to impeach, and if it went to the Senate who did not uphold it, people seem to think that's the end of the world for Democrats. I don't agree.

Sometimes we have to do the right thing because it's the right thing. I think this is one of those times. Otherwise we're saying we condone lawbreaking at the highest office in the land. I resist that.

We have a criminal in the Oval Office. We need to treat him as one.

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What did they leave out, Cooter? (Is it something we laypeople would understand?)



Too much time has passed.....lol. I can't remember other than I thought that what they were relying on for a basis failed to include some things that would work.
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If the House began impeachment hearings and if that lead to Articles of Impeachment being drawn up and voted on, and if the entire House moved to impeach, and if it went to the Senate who did not uphold it, people seem to think that's the end of the world for Democrats. I don't agree.

Sometimes we have to do the right thing because it's the right thing. I think this is one of those times. Otherwise we're saying we condone lawbreaking at the highest office in the land. I resist that.

We have a criminal in the Oval Office. We need to treat him as one.


Amen, Robbie. It is the JOB of the House to impeach with this much evidence right in plain sight. If the Senate Republicans refuse to convict, that is on THEIR conscience. And I suspect most voters will place the blame right where it belongs -- on Republican Senators' heads.

It isn't about politics. It's about the rule of law and upholding the Constitution. Because if acts as egregious as THESE aren't impeachable, then nothing is.

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Amen, Lis.

And it's not only about this President. It's also about what message inaction would send to all future Presidents.

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The public deserves to know what has taken place by all that may be involved. If it benefits Trump, then so be it. Deal the cards and let the chips fall where they may.
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I don't even know where to put this among all of the Trump threads....

In the handoff between Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell, O'Donnell dropped a bombshell.

A source close to Deutschebank has revealed personally to O'Donnell that the only reason Deutschebank was willing to give Donald Trump loans -- when no other financial institution would -- is that Trump had co-signers for the loans. (And Deutschebank's source says that the bank WOULDN'T have given Trump the loans without the co-signers.)

Who were the co-signers?

Multiple Russian oligarchs. Millionaires who were willing to back Trump's loans.

Good heavens, smoking guns everywhere.

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I saw the handoff, too, and O'Donnell's bombshell. If true, which O'Donnell said every few words, it would explain everything.

As David Cay Johnston noted, if true, this would be the skeleton key that unlocks almost everything Trumpian.

If true. Everybody needs to keep saying that.

But holy !@#$!

If true.

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My jaw literally dropped open.

Wow.

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My son and I just texted about this. He believes Trump's supporters won't care unless somebody uncovers the pee tape.

Probably true.

Even that might not do it.

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My son and I just texted about this. He believes Trump's supporters won't care unless somebody uncovers the pee tape.

Probably true.

Even that might not do it.



Agreed.
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My son and I just texted about this. He believes Trump's supporters won't care unless somebody uncovers the pee tape.

Probably true.

Even that might not do it.


Those folks would only want the pee tape for its entertainment value.

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I don't even know where to put this among all of the Trump threads....

In the handoff between Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell, O'Donnell dropped a bombshell.

A source close to Deutschebank has revealed personally to O'Donnell that the only reason Deutschebank was willing to give Donald Trump loans -- when no other financial institution would -- is that Trump had co-signers for the loans. (And Deutschebank's source says that the bank WOULDN'T have given Trump the loans without the co-signers.)

Who were the co-signers?

Multiple Russian oligarchs. Millionaires who were willing to back Trump's loans.

Good heavens, smoking guns everywhere.



Nephew Major Andy has been saying all along, "Follow the money."
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Nephew Major Andy has been saying all along, "Follow the money."



Yep. But I thought it was going to turn out to be money laundering through purchase and sale of properties.

Hell, it may turn out to be that, too!

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Trump threatened to sue and O'Donnell has issued a retraction.
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Trump threatened to sue and O'Donnell has issued a retraction.



This is not a retraction.

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MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell says he was 'wrong' to report thinly sourced Trump finances story

By Oliver Darcy, CNN Business | Updated 4:22 PM ET, Wed August 28, 2019

New York (CNN Business) -- MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell said he was "wrong" to report a thinly sourced story about President Trump's finances on his prime time show Tuesday night.

"Last night I made an error in judgment by reporting an item about the president's finances that didn't go through our rigorous verification and standards process," O'Donnell said in a tweet Wednesday afternoon. "I shouldn't have reported it and I was wrong to discuss it on the air. I will address the issue on my show tonight."

The about-face came shortly after an attorney for Trump and the Trump Organization sent a letter to NBC demanding the network "immediately and prominently" retract and apologize for what the attorney described as "false and defamatory" reporting.

O'Donnell on Tuesday night offered his audience an explosive story on Trump's finances -- a story he later stressed came from a single source, that NBC had not verified, and that would "require a lot more verification" to be confirmed as fact.

On his program, O'Donnell reported that Trump received loans from Deutsche Bank that had been co-signed by "Russian billionaires close to Vladimir Putin."

The MSNBC anchor cited a "source close to Deutsche Bank" for his reporting.

While discussing his reporting, O'Donnell repeatedly said he wanted to stress that "if true" it would be a huge development.

"I stress 'if true,' because this is a single source," O'Donnell said at one point.

Later in his program, O'Donnell plainly said NBC News had not verified his reporting.

"I want to stress that is a single source, that has not been confirmed by NBC News," O'Donnell said. "I have not seen any documentation from Deutsche Bank that supports this and verifies this. This is just a single source who has revealed that to me."

O'Donnell then added, "And that's where it stands at this point, its going to require a lot more verification before that can be a confirmable fact."

It's not clear how O'Donnell's reporting made it to air, given that NBC News was unable to verify his reporting.

Usually, at networks, journalists must clear anonymously sourced reports with the network before reporting them on-air or online — a process O'Donnell acknowledged he didn't follow in his Wednesday tweet.

Asked how O'Donnell's reporting made it to air, given how thinly sourced it was and given that the network has not been able to confirm it, a spokesperson for NBC and MSNBC declined to comment.

No other network or news organization, including CNN, has corroborated O'Donnell's reporting. Notably, there was no mention of anything resembling O'Donnell's reporting in the report issued earlier this year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

Deutsche Bank would not say publicly Tuesday whether it is in possession of Trump's tax returns. But the bank did acknowledge that US House of Representatives would see people's tax returns if the bank fulfilled a subpoena related to Trump.

Based on Deutsche Bank's current knowledge and the results of the extensive searches that have already been conducted, the Bank has in its possession tax returns," Deutsche Bank said Tuesday, redacting the names in a letter to a federal appeals court of who it was specifically referring to.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/28/media/msnbc-lawrence-odonnell-deutsche-bank/index.html

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It is not good to give Trump any ammunition, however tenuous, to claim "fake news". O'Donnell did that. And now, if the story ends up having substance, there will always be a taint or suspicion that can be latched upon by those who want to do so.

Anything goes with Republicans and what they say or do, but Democrats must be very careful. That seems, however unfair, to be what the rules are.
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I have a feeling that O'Donnell has heard from the NBC higher-ups, who want multiple sources before they release news.

O'Donnell WAS very careful to repeatedly say the information came from a single source, and he repeatedly said "If true..."

Let's hope additional sourcing comes forward.

DeutscheBank was required to tell a judge by yesterday whether it had Trump's tax returns, in either draft or filed form. They did confirm they have tax returns, but the names were redacted. So more may come out very soon.

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You can't ask for more....

In the very first minute of his program tonight, O'Donnell clearly apologized for reporting the story last night.

He said a story with a single source would not have have passed NBC's rigorous standards, and it should not have been reported last night.

He also noted that NBC had received a letter from the Trump Administration vigorously denying the reporting and demanding a retraction.

Then he immediately said that he retracted the report and his tweet, and said that we did not know whether or not the reporting was true.

And then he apologized.

You can't ask for more than that.

And when has Trump ever done anything CLOSE to that?

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I'm sure Trump will ask for more than that. Hell, he'll demand more than that.

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Trump's DOJ hid shocking report on growing terror threat from white supremacists.

"he Justice Department suppressed a report showing that suspected white supremacists were responsible for all race-based domestic terror incidents last year.

The report by New Jersey’s Office of Homeland Security Preparedness was distributed throughout DHS and to federal agencies like the FBI earlier this year before it was obtained by Yahoo News. The document includes data Congress has sought from the Trump administration but the Justice Department has been “unable or unwilling” to provide.

The report shows that 25 of 46 suspects in 32 domestic terrorism incidents were identified as white supremacists. The 25 suspected white supremacist suspects were responsible for all “race-based” incidents while others were deemed “anti-government extremists” and “single-issue extremists.”

“This map reflects 32 domestic terrorist attacks, disrupted plots, threats of violence, and weapons stockpiling by individuals with a radical political or social agenda who lack direction or influence from foreign terrorist organizations in 2018,” the report said.

The map and data in the document were circulated through the DOJ and law enforcement agencies in April, which is around the time that the Senate Judiciary Committee requested the DOJ provide data showing the number of white supremacists involved in domestic terrorism.
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Read more here.

He tweets classified information for our enemies......his buds......to see and Congress does nothing. Now this. There are so many reasons to remove this man from office but Mitch wouldn't allow it. That will get him a bonus from Vladimir.
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