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Trump Declares National Emergency to Build Border Wall

After declaring a national emergency to build a border wall, President Trump said he “didn’t need to do this, but I’d rather do it much faster.” The move bypasses Congress.

By Peter Baker | Feb. 15, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump declared a national emergency at the border on Friday to access billions of dollars to build a border wall that Congress refused to give him, transforming a highly charged policy dispute into a fundamental confrontation over separation of powers.

In a televised announcement in the Rose Garden, Mr. Trump said he would sign the declaration to protect the country from the flow of drugs, criminals and illegal immigrants coming across the border from Mexico, which he characterized as a profound threat to national security.

“We’re going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we’re going to do it one way or the other,” he said. “It’s an invasion,” he added. “We have an invasion of drugs and criminals coming into our country.”

The declaration will enable Mr. Trump to divert $3.6 billion budgeted for military construction projects to the border wall, White House officials said. Mr. Trump will also use more traditional presidential budgetary discretion to tap $2.5 billion from counternarcotics programs and $600 million from a Treasury Department asset forfeiture fund.

Combined with the $1.375 billion authorized for fencing in a spending package passed by Congress on Thursday night, Mr. Trump would then have about $8 billion in all to advance construction of new barriers and repairs or replacement of existing barriers along the border this year, significantly more than the $5.7 billion that Congress refused to give him.

The president’s decision, previewed on Thursday, triggered instant condemnation from Democrats and some Republicans, who called it an unconstitutional abuse of his authority.

“This is plainly a power grab by a disappointed president, who has gone outside the bounds of the law to try to get what he failed to achieve in the constitutional legislative process,” Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the minority leader, said in a joint statement.

The two vowed to try to overturn the decision, appealing to Republicans to join them. “The president is not above the law,” they said. “The Congress cannot let the president shred the Constitution.”

House Democrats plan to introduce legislation to block the president’s move, which could pass both houses if it wins the votes of the half-dozen Republican senators who had criticized the planned declaration. That would put the president in the position of issuing the first veto of his presidency.

In addition to a legislative effort to stop Mr. Trump, the issue will almost certainly be taken to court, either by congressional Democrats, liberal advocacy groups or both. Legal experts have said the administration can make serious arguments to justify its move, but added that courts may decide that it is stretching the intent of the law. The Supreme Court is controlled by a five-member conservative bloc but in recent years has reined in Republican and Democratic presidents who were judged to be exceeding their authority.

White House officials rejected critics who said Mr. Trump was creating a precedent that future presidents could use to ignore the will of Congress. Republicans have expressed concern that a Democratic commander in chief could cite Mr. Trump’s move to declare a national emergency over gun violence or climate change without legislation from Congress.

More at: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/15/us/politics/national-emergency-trump.html

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I watched his entire speech. He repeated lies about what kinds of people are trying to come to the United States, he repeated lies about how illegal drugs are coming into the country, and he repeated lies about crime statistics associated with those entering the country.

He then launched into a poor-pitiful-me diatribe about how well he has done in negotiations with other countries, notably China, and falsely claimed that tariffs were bringing revenue to the US coffers. He complained that he gets no media coverage for his brilliant work.

Returning to the border wall, he lamented that the previous Congress had let him down by not funding the border wall. When asked, later, in the Q-and-A portion whether he meant Paul Ryan had let him down, he said he didn't want to name names but indicated it may well have been Ryan.

When reporters tried to ask him specific questions he shouted them down and told them to shut up and sit down. One asked if he could ask a follow-up question and Trump growled "No" and told him he'd had his turn. He made reference to "lying CNN" and their "fake news."

All in all, it was a typical Trump performance.

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I'm glad to get it second-hand instead of live. Thanks, Robbie.
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Move On is setting up demonstrations against the "national emergency" declaration for this coming Monday. As I get more info on this, I'll be happy to post it, if folks are interested.

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Thanks, Peter.

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Fact-checking Trump's speech declaring a national emergency

By Holmes Lybrand, Priscilla Alvarez, Geneva Sands, Lydia DePillis, Gregory Wallace and Ryan Browne, CNN

Updated 3:06 PM ET, Fri February 15, 2019


CNN -- President Donald Trump on Friday signed a national emergency declaration to address "an invasion of our country with drugs, with human traffickers, with all types of criminals and gangs." He also spoke about a wide variety of issues, including trade with China and the national debt.
Here's a partial rundown of the President's statements and the context:

Trump: "I built a lot of wall. I have a lot of money and I built a lot of wall."
As of Friday, no new miles of wall have been constructed during Trump's tenure, but preparations are underway.

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Trump: "A big majority of the big drugs, the big drug loads don't go through ports of entry"
It's unclear what exactly Trump is claiming here regarding "big drug loads," but the majority of hard narcotics seized at the border are coming through ports of entry, not between them as the President continues to claim.

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Trump: "President Obama put on more debt on this country than every president in the history of our country combined."
This is false.

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Trump: "China is paying us billions in tariffs."
The President has made this claim again and again, but this not really what's happening.

Trump: "Two weeks ago, 26 were killed in a gunfight on the border a mile away from where I went."
The President visited McAllen, Texas, in January, but CNN has found no reports of 26 people killed in a gunfight within a mile of the area Trump visited.

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Trump: "In fact, (Obama) told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea."
While we don't know what was said during their November 2016 Oval Office meeting, two former Obama administration officials have rebutted Trump's assertion that Obama was on the verge of starting a war with North Korea.

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Trump: "We had certain funds that are being used at the discretion of generals, at the discretion of the military. ... Some of them haven't been allocated yet. And some of the generals think that this is more important. I was speaking to a couple of them. They think this is far more important than what they were going to use it for."
The President did not indicate who he was speaking to and is skipping over an important point about how the military is responding to the request to find money to support building the wall.

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More detailed explanations at: https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics/fact-check-trump-national-emergency-immigration-speech/index.html



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Ok, since I’m with friends, I figure I can admit that I’m paranoid, and that means I have a bit of conspiracy theorist in me.

Today we saw trump declare an emergency over a bogus “invasion” consisting of a ragtag bunch of unarmed migrants on foot, not an armed army with tanks and bomber planes, directed by a foreign government set out to conquer us and subjugate us. This “army” is either fleeing violence or looking to get jobs cleaning our toilets and landscaping our yards.

If trump can do this, what next? Will he declare another national emergency down the road that nullifies the civil rights of some?
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I think we're going to regret not impeaching him yet.
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If trump can do this, what next? Will he declare another national emergency down the road that nullifies the civil rights of some?



That's a very good question, Birdz. Most of the questions in this regard that I've seen have been addressed to Republicans, along the line of "What would keep a Democratic President from declaring a firearms emergency and taking all the guns?"

Yours, though, goes to the more immediate prospect of what Trump could continue to do while in office.

Yikes!

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I've screamed for decades that Congress has GOT to rein in the executive branch. The Presidents assume powers that they don't have and the various administrative agencies don't give a !@#$ about the Constitution.
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I didn't know about Joshua Green's claim. Did you all?

“I Didn’t Need to Do This”: Donald Trump Declares a National Emergency

By Eric Lach
February 15th,

Who wanted Trump to declare a national emergency? Democrats didn’t—they’re already moving to block the order. Many Republicans didn’t want him to do it, either. “I don’t think much of that idea,” Mitch McConnell, the Senate Majority Leader, told a reporter last month. On Friday, Ann Coulter dismissed a national-emergency declaration as a “scam.” So why did he do it?

When a reporter pressed him on whether he would concede that he didn’t get the deal he wanted from Congress, Trump, of course, refused to concede. And, in doing so, he undercut what little concrete rationale his emergency had to begin with.

“I could do the wall over a longer period of time. I didn’t need to do this. But I’d rather do it much faster,” he said. “And I don’t have to do it for the election. I’ve already done a lot of wall for the election. 2020. And the only reason we’re up here talking about this is because of the election—because they want to try to win an election, which it looks like they’re not going to be able to do.”

So there it is, as straight as you can get it from this President: he didn’t need to do this, and it’s not about the election, but the only reason he’s talking about it is because of the election.

It’s a good day to remember that, according to Joshua Green’s “Devil’s Bargain,” Trump’s aides came up with the idea of the wall in 2014, not for policy reasons but for memory reasons. “Inside Trump’s circle, the power of illegal immigration to manipulate popular sentiment was readily apparent, and his advisers brainstormed methods for keeping their attention-addled boss on message,” Green wrote. “They needed a trick, a mnemonic device. In the summer of 2014, they found one that clicked.” Not with the public, or even with the Republican Party—but with Trump himself.

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Yeah, I'd read this before. It reminds me of the time honored tradition of songwriting: Find the hook.

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Yes, I'd heard it before, too. Disgusting, isn't it.

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I watched a replay of his Rose Garden fiasco. It's scary watching a mentally ill person who is POTUS.

He's still got Hannity and Limbaugh!
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Trump’s make-believe crisis is untethered from truth and reality.

"IT IS hard to single out any single event in Donald Trump’s presidency as the most untethered from truth and reality. Still, Friday’s news conference, in which Mr. Trump tried to defend his end run around Congress based on a make-believe emergency at the southern border, was, to use the president’s own words, a “big con game.”

Mr. Trump’s technique is to spin fiction as fact, secure in the knowledge that minds will reel as fact-checkers labor to deconstruct his ziggurat of falsehoods. So let’s stick to one big, basic truth: There is no crisis at the southern border.

There is no crisis, and there is no justification to specifically and surgically contravene the will of Congress, which just weighed and dismissed Mr. Trump’s demand for $5.7 billion to build a border wall, opting instead to grant him $1.375 billion.

The evidence that no emergency exists rests on the following:

Fact: Illegal crossings between ports of entry, as measured by Border Patrol arrests along the Mexican border, have plummeted since the turn of the century, falling to just below 400,000 in the most recent fiscal year, from more than 1.6 million in 2000. That nose-dive in illegal crossings coincides with better economic conditions in Mexico and a major increase in Border Patrol agents, technology and infrastructure along the southwest frontier.

Fact: Most illegal drugs that enter the country from Mexico are discovered by authorities at legal crossing points, not in remote areas where a wall would serve as a deterrent. That was the case, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, for 90 percent of the heroin seized along the border. It’s not a Democratic talking point. Vice President Pence, in an opinion piece published last month in USA Today, noted that most seizures of illegal narcotics are “primarily at points of entry.”

Fact: The number of illegal immigrants in the United States has been falling for more than a decade, and two-thirds of those who remain have been here for more than a decade. An estimated 10.7 million unauthorized migrants were in the country in 2016, about 1.5 million fewer than in 2007, according to the Pew Research Center.

Moreover, among unauthorized migrants in fiscal 2017, about twice as many entered the United States legally — and overstayed their visas — as were apprehended at the southern border, according to government figures.

Fact: Mr. Trump, having conjured a nonexistent crisis, simply could not countenance his failure to persuade Congress to pay for his border wall. The source for this assertion is the president himself, who acknowledged in his news conference Friday that “I didn’t need to do this” and “I just want to do it faster.”

The emergency for Mr. Trump is purely political, impelled by expectations inflated by his campaign promises to build a border wall and force Mexico to pay. Having conflated a political crisis with a national one, Mr. Trump chooses to dodge, dissemble and lie. A self-respecting Congress would not let stand this manufactured emergency.
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WaPo Editorial.

That alone should suffice to blow him out of the legal water in court. It's the rantings of a sick man.
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quote:

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If trump can do this, what next? Will he declare another national emergency down the road that nullifies the civil rights of some?



That's a very good question, Birdz. Most of the questions in this regard that I've seen have been addressed to Republicans, along the line of "What would keep a Democratic President from declaring a firearms emergency and taking all the guns?"

Yours, though, goes to the more immediate prospect of what Trump could continue to do while in office.

Yikes!



I worry about that too, Robbie. I don’t trust the Dems to refrain from abusing power either. However, right now, IMO, the more immediate danger is how trump might abuse his powers.

Once again, my paranoia is making me imagine the worst . . .

Already, trump has used the word “treason” against his opponents. He used it to characterize the Congressional Dems’ Stone-faced reaction to his 2017 SOTU address as treasonous. I have some vague recollection of him using that word about some leak from the WH.

This leaves me worried that he might use future disaster, a (God forbid!) 2001-style terrorist attack, perhaps, as a pretext to declare another national emergency, which might include a crackdown against the anti-trump “resistance.”
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Holy crap, Birdz!

I want to go crawl into my closet and stay there for a couple of years.

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Thank goodness the Democrats won the House!
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Sorry to scare you, Robbie. 😟

I was frankly hoping that someone here would tell me to calm down and that I was letting my paranoid imagination run wild. Apparently I’m not the only one scared of what kind of mischief trump might make. ☹️
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Trump’s declaration of national emergency hit with first lawsuits

By Damian Paletta, Mike DeBonis, John Wagner, Amy B Wang and Missy Ryan
February 16 at 6:33 PM

A day after President Trump declared a national emergency — in an attempt to circumvent Congress and redirect taxpayer money to fund 230 miles of barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border, the advocacy group Public Citizen filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Washington, seeking to block Trump’s declaration on behalf of three Texas landowners and an environmental group.

“We just sued Trump over his fake national emergency,” the group stated. “If Trump gets away with this, there’s no telling what the next concocted ‘emergency’ will be, who will be targeted and what emergency powers will be claimed.”

Another advocacy group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, sued the Department of Justice Friday for failing to provide documents — including legal opinions and communications — related to the president’s decision to declare a national emergency.

On Saturday evening, the Center for Biological Diversity, an environmental group, filed another lawsuit in federal court, saying the president has failed to identify a legal authority to take such an action, “and Congress has not enacted any emergency legislation even remotely related to border wall construction, and thus the president’s reallocation of funds is unlawful.”

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, a Democrat, said he planned to work with other states to take legal action against the White House. The American Civil Liberties Union said it was preparing a lawsuit for early next week, arguing that Trump cannot legally redirect taxpayer money during an “emergency” unless it’s for military construction projects that support the armed forces.

“The president’s actions clearly violate the Congress’s exclusive power of the purse, which our Founders enshrined in the Constitution,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in a statement. “The Congress will defend our constitutional authorities in the Congress, in the Courts, and in the public, using every remedy available.”

Pelosi’s office is in the process of amassing a list of nearly 400 projects nationwide that could be jeopardized by the diversion of funds to construct a border wall, the Hill reported.

Rep. Mac Thornberry (Tex.), the top Republican on the House Armed Services Committee, warned against tapping Defense Department and military construction accounts to build the wall.

“Doing so would have detrimental consequences for our troops,” he said in a Thursday statement. “And it would undercut one of the most significant accomplishments of the last two years — beginning to repair and rebuild our military. I hope that the president will pursue other options.”

The White House plans to use $600 million from the Treasury Department’s forfeiture funds account, which contains money seized by the federal government from a range of illicit activities.

An additional $2.5 billion would be redirected from a Pentagon program for countering drug activities, and a final $3.6 billion would be moved from military construction accounts. It’s that final pot of money that White House officials said required the national emergency declaration, as the White House is generally barred from moving money from one account to another without congressional approval.

Democrats signaled that they would proceed with a privileged resolution of disapproval. By Friday afternoon, Rep. Joaquin Castro (D-Tex.) said he had gathered more than 60 co-sponsors for the resolution. Such a measure would pass in the Democratic-controlled House, and more than enough Republicans could break ranks to ensure its Senate passage. But Trump is certain to veto the resolution, and Congress probably couldn’t muster enough votes to override a veto.

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