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The New York Times is pay blocked for those who don't subscribe, so I'm taking the unusual step of posting an anonymous op-ed in its entirety.

This comes the day after Bob Woodward's new book, Fear: Trump in the White House has been previewed.

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Opinion
I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration

I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

Sept. 5, 2018

The Times today is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process.

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier.

The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.

It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.

The result is a two-track presidency.

Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.

The writer is a senior official in the Trump administration.

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I'm glad you posted this, Robbie. I was about to post a shortened version.
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I knew The Miz would be on this.

I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed with someone who doesn't have the guts to stand up and be counted. This won't make one bit of difference to the people overall in this country.

The members of The Trump Party will love him more and although it will fire up the Progressives, what good will it do? Something more has to happen. As it is, Trump will remain in office and little if anything will change.

I'm sure that Pence is smiling at the possibilities of his Theocracy.
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quote:

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I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed with someone who doesn't have the guts to stand up and be counted. This won't make one bit of difference to the people overall in this country.




Did you, or do you, feel the same way about Deep Throat?

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The cowardly Republican leadership will do absolutely nothing about Trump until there is a groundswell of American opinion demanding they do something.

This, I hope, will encourage the groundswell.

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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Does the so-called "Senior Administration
Official" really exist, or is it just the Failing
New York Times with another phony source?
If the GUTLESS anonymous person does
indeed exist, the Times must, for National
Security purposes, turn him/her over to
government at once!

4:40 PM - 5 Sep 2018

___________________________________

To do what to that person?

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quote:

Miz Robbie wrote:

quote:

CooterBrown44 wrote:

I'm sorry, but I'm not impressed with someone who doesn't have the guts to stand up and be counted. This won't make one bit of difference to the people overall in this country.




Did you, or do you, feel the same way about Deep Throat?



And where would we all be without Deep Throat?
OMG.


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Thank you SO much for posting this in its entirety, Robbie! I'm one of those folks who is locked out of the NY Times site.

This thing broke JUST before 20 guests arrived at the house for a meeting. Had dinner after and JUST got back home, and I've been DYING to find out what is going on with this!

I have a theory....

My guess is that this was written by....

Mike Pence.

"The root of the problem is the president's amorality." And then the writer goes on to talk about how Trump doesn't adhere to conservative principles (free minds, free markets, free people). But that's not morality. And Mike Pence is OBSESSED with morality.

Further, who in the Trump Administration has the respect of other true conservatives in the Administration, who would band together into a "resistance"? Dan Coats. Mike Pompeo. Jim Mattis. Gina Haspel. National security types who recognize the very deep danger Trump has put us in. Who would they rally around, with true conservative values who recognizes the importance of allies and stable international relationships? Mike Pence.

Finally, the focus on the 25th Amendment is a huge clue. They're not talking about impeachment, which would require a House majority to start it and 2/3 of the Senate to finish the job. They're talking about the 25th Amendment, which starts with who? Mike Pence. The Vice President and a majority of the cabinet secretaries. So Pence and eight of his closest friends in the cabinet. Who could he get?
- Elaine Chao (Trump's endless "infrastructure weeks" are constantly interrupted by Trump drama)
- Jim Mattis (protecting national security)
- Steve Mnuchin (Trump is interfering in other tax issues he wants to accomplish)
- Kirstjen Nielsen (protecting national security)
- Sonny Perdue (sees what Trump's tariffs are doing to farmers)
- Mike Pompeo (protecting national security)
- Jeff Sessions (Trump is threatening his job - wouldn't that be rich retribution?)

Who would oppose, as they enjoy the swamp too much?
- Ben Carson
- Betsy DeVos
- Rick Perry
- Wilbur Ross
- Ryan Zinke

I really haven't any clue how these would vote:
- Alex Acosta
- Alex Azar
- Robert Wilkie

So he would only have to convince one of the three unknowns to invoke the 25th Amendment and send it over to Congress. Once the message (that the president is unable to discharge the duties of office) is transmitted to the President Pro Tem (Orrin Hatch) and Speaker (Paul Ryan), "the Vice President SHALL IMMEDIATELY ASSUME the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

A coup.

Now, Trump could fight back. He would have to transmit to Hatch and Ryan a written declaration that he IS able to discharge his duties. And then he immediately gets his powers back.

If Pence and the majority of the cabinet AGAIN transmit a message to Hatch and Ryan within four days that Trump can't discharge his duties, the Congress must assemble within 48 hours to decide the issue. They must make their decision within 21 days.

It would take a 2/3 vote of BOTH houses to remove the president.

So....if the Dems vote as a bloc, and Pence and friends are able to peel off the most concerned Republicans, could they reach 2/3?

Is this editorial a covert attempt by Pence to push Trump over the edge? To get Trump to lose his sh** just enough to convince wavering cabinet members and truly conservative congressional Republicans that this move is necessary -- for the good of the party, if not the good of the country?

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Oh, and the beauty of it being Pence?

Even if Trump finds out it IS Pence, there is absolutely NOTHING Trump can do to him.

Pence can't be fired.

And he won't be impeached.

Pence is there to stay.

And he might even become a primary challenger in 2020, if Trump stays around that long.

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You make a very interesting case, Lis.

Did you see The Last Word tonight? Lawrence O'Donnell thinks it's Dan Coats, and he made a very interesting case. I like reading all this reasoning from you and from Lawrence.
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Thanks, Belle. I just caught the very end of Lawrence O'Donnell, where some said Coats and one guy thought it was a collaborative effort by several people.

It's interesting, to be sure.

Ha! I'm watching the rerun of Rachel Maddow (missed her 9:00 show), and she JUST NOW mentioned that it might be Pence, because Pence has used the words "lodestar" (never heard that word) and "cold comfort" in writing several times before. She says some are saying Don McGahn, the White House counsel. Or someone in the White House communications shop.

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I've been a fan of the Don McGahn theory, but I must admit there's good logic behind Lis's Mike Pence theory and Lawrence O'Donnell's Dan Coats theory.

I like the Don McGahn theory because much of it sounds to me like lawyer logic. Further, McGahn is in a particularly good position to observe a variety of interactions affecting a variety of departments. Further, Trump constructively discharged McGahn by saying he'd accepted McGahn's resignation before McGahn had tendered one.

But, hell, it could be Ivanka. emoticon

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Ha! "Hey, Daddy, I've been meaning to tell you something...."

The Washington Post is reporting that Trump aides in the White House are circulating text messages saying, "The sleeper cells have awoken." The article says that one Trump official said, "The problem for the president is it could be SO MANY people."

A former White House official in close contact with former coworkers said, "It's like the horror movies when everyone realizes the call is coming from inside the house."

Um, *ring, ring*

Fate calling.

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quote:

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The Washington Post is reporting that Trump aides in the White House are circulating text messages saying, "The sleeper cells have awoken."



Miss Grundy awoke from her wine-infused nap to ask, "Shouldn't that be awakened?"



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A former White House official in close contact with former coworkers said, "It's like the horror movies when everyone realizes the call is coming from inside the house."




I've seen and heard this a few times tonight, and I blush to admit I don't get it. I've never watched a horror movie because I'm pretty sure it would scare the liver out of me.

What does that quote mean? So what if the call (what call?) is coming from inside the house?

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I think Miss Grundy is right. Erm, correction: Of COURSE Miss Grundy is right! LOL....

I didn't actually see the movie, but I know the premise. A teenager is babysitting, back in the day where there are only land lines. Someone keeps calling her in a threatening manner. The girl is scared and calls the police. The police trace the call somehow and tell her that the person who has been making those threatening calls is INSIDE the house where she is.

In this case, the threat to Trump isn't coming from people outside the White House; the threat is one of his own people, right inside the White House.

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Ahhhh... thank you, Lis.

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Deep Throat provided specific instances of violations of criminal laws, including names and the instances where these violations took place. That's different from saying the President is nuts.
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From Bob Woodward's book Fear: Trump in the White House

In April 2017, the US launched a cruise missile strike against a Syrian regime airbase — the first intentional US strike on Bashar al-Assad’s forces since the Syrian war began in 2011. The strike was in direct response to a chemical weapon attack on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun that killed at least 85 civilians.

But Woodward reports that Trump wanted the strikes to be a lot more punitive.

“Let’s !@#$ kill him! Let’s go in. Let’s kill the !@#$ lot of them,” Trump told Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis, referring to Assad and his forces. After hanging up with Trump, according to Woodward, the secretary told one of his senior staffers: “We’re not going to do any of that. We’re going to be much more measured.”

Mattis’s more restrained response is what Trump ultimately authorized. But it’s completely possible that without Mattis’s intervention, the US would’ve launched a larger-scale strike to try to kill Assad. That would certainly have angered Assad’s main backer, Russia, and may have led to a broader Washington-Moscow confrontation.


https://www.vox.com/2018/9/4/17819298/woodward-book-fear-trump-north-korea-mattis-syria-assad


Initially, I felt grateful that Secretary Mattis overrode Trump's command and took a more measured approach. However, as I thought about the military choosing to disregard an order from the President, I asked myself how I would feel about the military deciding not to obey a President -- any President. How is this not the next thing to a military coup?

Trump's actions are not the only troubling things revealed in this book.

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