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Susie, I made that comment based on Barry's description of previous dealings with this parent.

I agree that most parents would want to support a child who goes through this transition.

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Susie, I made that comment based on Barry's description of previous dealings with this parent.

I agree that most parents would want to support a child who goes through this transition.



I understand why you made the comment, and I didn't mean my remark to sound like criticism.

I gotta tell you, though, that in years past, at least, "most" parents were NOT supportive of children who wanted to transition. That is changing, with increased awareness of what it means to be transgender, which is a good thing. There still are a lot of people (e.g., Donald Trump) who don't have a clue and couldn't buy a clue either.
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I gotta tell you, though, that in years past, at least, "most" parents were NOT supportive of children who wanted to transition. That is changing, with increased awareness of what it means to be transgender, which is a good thing. There still are a lot of people (e.g., Donald Trump) who don't have a clue and couldn't buy a clue either.



I'm sure that's true. It's still tough for kids/adults to "come out" to their parents as gay or lesbian. Transgender must be a whole new level of fright for them.

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Those pics are from a Facebook page called Assigned Male

https://www.facebook.com/assignedmale/

The artist is Sophie Labelle

https://www.facebook.com/lasophielabelle/

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Susie: My church is a "Mainline Protestant" congregation, specifically, Episcopalian. These young people have been wholeheartedly supported by our congregation.

I'm so grateful that your church has been so supportive of them, Susie. I wish I could say the same thing of churches (or any organization) around here. Truly, if any group should be accepting and loving of children of God, it should be a church....

I don't like the "accommodation" of having transgender people use the nurse's bathroom or some other "private" bathroom. That draws even MORE attention to the transgender person, in my opinion. If that is how the schools in Lis' school district have responded, I think they should change that accommodation, and the courts seem to be leaning in that direction.

I don't like that accommodation, either, Susie. At all. Even having a single bathroom that ANYONE is welcome to enter (like a family bathroom concept) would be SOMEWHAT better. But the most sensible accommodation would be to simply let people be who they are. If the adults set the tone in not making a big deal about it, the kids will follow. Unfortunately, in THIS community, the kids are actually having to take the lead in teaching a bunch of adults how to act. This is going to take time -- and fighting a whole lot of resistance -- in some areas of the country. Unfortunately, the innocent kids caught in the middle shouldn't HAVE to wait.

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Guess what was on tonight's Indianapolis news?

(Huffington Post) - An Indiana teacher says he was forced to resign after he refused to comply with the school district’s policy of addressing transgender students by their preferred names.

John Kluge, the former orchestra teacher at Brownsburg High School in Brownsburg, Indiana, argued that the policy ― which also requires teachers to refer to students using the pronouns which best align with their gender identity ― goes against his religious beliefs and violates the First Amendment. “I’m being compelled to encourage students in what I believe is something that’s a dangerous lifestyle,” the teacher, who has been with the Brownsburg School District for four years, said. “I’m fine to teach students with other beliefs, but the fact that teachers are being compelled to speak a certain way is the scary thing....”

The dispute between Kluge and his employers reportedly began at the start of 2018, soon after teachers received an 11-page document outlining the school district’s transgender student policy. A copy of what’s purported to be the Jan. 3 document on the Indiana Family Institute’s website states that the Brownsburg School District “allows name changes with a letter from the student’s parent(s) and a letter from a health care professional.” The district permits trans students to “use the restroom of their choice.”

Kluge, 28, told the Indianapolis Star that he and school administrators initially reached a compromise that would permit him to refer to all students by their last names. A few months ago, however, he said he was told he would no longer be allowed to do that. After what Kluge described as a “very threatening and bullying type of meeting,” he said district officials told him he would be terminated if he didn’t comply with the school’s transgender student policy.


No, Mr. Kluge. What you WERE compelled to do was to treat your students with respect. You think calling students by their LAST names is an acceptable "compromise"? It's not.

If your deep religious convictions compel you to not be transgender, then by all means, don't be transgender. No one is preventing you from exercising your religious choice. But where do YOU get off imposing YOUR religious choices on OTHER people? THAT is where the problem lies.

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That's what many people don't get, Lis:

“I’m being compelled to encourage students in what I believe is something that’s a dangerous lifestyle,”

It's not a "lifestyle." And it's not a "choice," unless you want to consider choosing between living as your true self or committing suicide, as far too many transgender kids, teens and adults have been shamed into doing. Talk about "dangerous."
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Exactly, Susie....

It is SO incredibly frustrating to talk to people who are absolutely convinced that sexual orientation and gender identity are choices, made as flippantly as what to have for lunch.

This.

Is.

Who.

They.

Are.

Who are ANY of us to insist that THEY must live a lie to make US more comfortable?

Or not live at all, to make us more comfortable.

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I realize my left-handedness is light duty compared to those who are gay, lesbian, or transgender, but it does help me understand wiring differences. The majority is wired one way; some of us are wired slightly (or greatly) differently.

It is within my lifetime that left-handers were forced to change to being right-handed because of religious reasons. The left hand is the devil's hand, don'tcha know.

It seems society determines what the majority has or does or is, and everyone else is a sinner.

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It is within my lifetime that left-handers were forced to change to being right-handed because of religious reasons. The left hand is the devil's hand, don'tcha know.



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It is SO incredibly frustrating to talk to people who are absolutely convinced that sexual orientation and gender identity are choices, made as flippantly as what to have for lunch.



Exactly - why anyone would believe that someone would voluntarily choose to be part of a much maligned and seriously marginalized minority is beyond me.

But those who believe that sexual orientation is a choice can easily prove it. All they've got to do is "turn gay". That is, start exclusively dating people of the same sex. Hang out in gay bars. Pick up people of the same sex, take them home, and have wild jungle monkey sex with them. And here's the important part - they have to enjoy it just as much as they did their previous opposite sex hookups. Two years should be long enough to prove their point. Then they can return to hetero dating (that is, if they still want to).
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And in Canada ....

Province introduces third gender option on identification, removes hurdles for changing markers

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Albertans who do not identify as male or female, or who prefer that their gender does not appear on their identification, may now select the ‘X’ option on their provincially issued driver’s licences, identification cards and vital statistics records.

“It matters how we treat one another,” said Premier Rachel Notley in a released statement. “By introducing an “X” marker on official documents, we are responding to concerns of the community and advancing equality for all Albertans, regardless of gender identity or expression.”

“This is another step forward in making sure Alberta is a province that respects, protects and advances human rights.”

The three gender options will be available on:

- Driver's licences
- Identification cards
- Birth certificates
- Death certificates

The province says the new option is an important step in supporting transgender or transitioning Albertans as well as those who do not identify with a specific gender. The third option also allows privacy to Albertans who prefer not to disclose their gender.

The provincial government has also altered the process for changing gender markers on identification. Under the new guidelines, gender can be changed on identification by:

- Any Albertan aged 18 or over
- Any Albertan between the ages of 12 and 17 as long as they have the consent of their parent or guardian. A letter of support from a medical professional is no longer required

Alberta is the third Canadian province to offer an ‘X’ option on provincially issued identification and birth certificates.

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A Klingon demonstrates the only true way for a warrior (or anyone else) to react when a friend changes their name and pronouns.

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Just because she's seriously talented

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Jeff Sessions just signed the death warrant for LGBTQ asylum seekers
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions has issued a new order in his never ending quest to keep the U.S. as white and straight as possible. In a wide-reaching move, Sessions says that the government will no longer accept the threat of gang violence or domestic abuse as grounds for asylum in the U.S.

“The mere fact that a country may have problems effectively policing certain crimes — such as domestic violence or gang violence — or that certain populations are more likely to be victims of crime, cannot itself establish an asylum claim,” Sessions wrote in a 31-page memo to immigration judges.

The order is going to disproportionately affect LGBTQ asylum seekers, many of them the victims of gang violence in their home countries. In fact, Sessions all but called LGBTQ asylum seekers out in his memo by refering to “certain populations.” In essence, Sessions said, it’s not America’s problem if you’re going to be killed for being gay or trans.

The heartlessness at the center of Session’s decision is illustrated by the specific case that spurred it. Ms. A.B.–court filings use only her initials–fled El Salvador after enduring years of violence, including rape, at the hands of her husband. She went to the local police, who did nothing. Finally, she came to the U.S., seeking asylum.

An immigration judge had ruled that what she endured was “criminal,” but still ruled against her claim. Ms. A.B. filed an appeal and won. Now she faces deportation after all.

LGBTQ advocacy groups were quick to condemn Session’s order. The National Center for Lesbian Rights called it “an unpricipled setback that overturns years of precedent.”

Immigration Equality, which provides legal help to LGBTQ immigrants, vowed to keep fighting the administration.

“The Attorney General’s decision in Matter of A-B- will certainly make it harder for many refugees to secure the safety they deserve,” the group said. “However, this decision does not, nor could it, strip lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and HIV-positive people of the right to be protected.”

Criticizing the Trump administration’s immigration policy for cruelty is actually a badge of honor for Sessions and other hard-liners. After all, this is the administration that happily separates children from their families at the border, telling parents that the children are being taken away for a bath.

Sending LGBTQ immigrants back to their deaths is just all in another day’s work.

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Talk about a special place in hell, sending people to their deaths....

And children being taken away for baths. Where have we heard THAT before? Of ALL things to say....

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Pentagon breaks tradition by not marking Pride month as trans ban looms
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Senior staff within the Pentagon have broken tradition by failing to acknowledge Pride month for the first time in six years.

According to The Washington Post, the Pentagon failed to issue a memo marking the beginning of Pride month. 

The absence of the memo has reportedly caused concerns, particularly in light of the current attempts to ban transgender troops from the military.

A former senior Obama administration official told The Washington Post about how important the annual memo is.

The official, who wished to remain anonymous, stated: “It opens the door for LGBT service members, civilians and their allies on military bases to hold events recognizing Pride Month without having to ask for special permission or an exception.

“It makes it known that there’s an authorization, that there’s support.”

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Karma is real ...

Uber driver suspended after ‘kicking out a lesbian couple for kissing’


An Uber driver who allegedly forced a lesbian couple out of his car after they shared a brief kiss has been suspended.

In a shocking video posted on Facebook, the two women – Emma Pichl, 24, and her girlfriend Alex Iovine, 26 – could be seen being told by driver Ahmad El Boutari that their kiss was “illegal.” 

El Boutari has now had his licence suspended by the New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission.

The organisation’s spokesman Allen Fromberg said the driver’s behaviour – which involved calling his passengers “disrespectful” and repeatedly insisting that they were breaking the law – was “ridiculous,” according to the Associated Press.

The spokesman said: “It’s 2018 in New York City, and this isn’t the way we live anymore,” before adding that El Boutari had committed “an unacceptable and repugnant act that will not be tolerated.”

Uber has also removed El Boutari’s access to its app while it investigates the incident.

Speaking to the New York Post, Pichl recounted what happened, saying: “We got over the Manhattan Bridge into the city.

“We were sitting on opposite sides of the backseat. At one point we leaned over and pecked [a] kiss, very fast,” she said.

Just five minutes after that, Pichl said the driver “pulled the cab over and said: ‘You should not do that… do not do that.'”

When he forced them to step out of the vehicle, the couple started recording.

In the video, El Boutari tells the pair that their actions are “illegal. You don’t do this.”

When they protest, telling him that “kissing is not illegal,” he insists they’re wrong, saying: “Yes, it is illegal. You don’t do this in the car.

“You aren’t allowed to do this.”

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