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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu indicted on bribe and fraud charges

Feb. 28, 2019
By Yuliya Talmazan and Paul Goldman

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Militia supporters chanting ‘Death to America’ break into U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad

By Mustafa Salim and Liz Sly | December 31 at 1:01 PM

Supporters of an Iranian-backed militia besieged the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad on Tuesday in retaliation for U.S. airstrikes, breaking through the first layer of security at the embassy compound and damaging a reception area before being expelled by Iraqi security forces. Here’s what we know:

*The U.S. Defense Department is sending two Apache helicopters and a “small contingent” of Marines to reinforce security at the embassy.

*President Trump accused Iran of “orchestrating an attack” on the embassy, where protesters ransacked a reception area and set fires.

*Iraqi security forces later intervened and set up a barricade, but protesters threw gasoline bombs into the compound.

*The Kataib Hezbollah militia vowed to force the embassy to shut down, and protesters set up tents outside the gates as night fell.

BAGHDAD — Hundreds of angry supporters of an Iranian-backed militia shouting "Death to America" broke into the U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad on Tuesday, trapping diplomats inside in response to U.S. airstrikes that killed or wounded scores of militia fighters.

The protesters breached the vast embassy compound's outer security but did not reach the main chancery building.

Iraqi security forces later intervened, erecting a steel barrier at the smashed gate into the compound's reception area and forcing the protesters to leave. However, protesters remained outside the gates, taunting the guards inside with chants denouncing America, attempting to tear down razor wire atop the compound's walls and tossing molotov cocktails over them.

After darkness fell, some of the protesters stormed and burned the embassy's second reception gate, as others set up tents for the night beside the embassy gates. They vowed to stay until all U.S. troops and diplomats leave Iraq.

They did not, however, enter the sprawling embassy compound, where diplomats and embassy staff sought refuge in a reinforced safe room.

President Trump responded angrily Tuesday to the protesters' actions, charging that Iran was behind a deadly militia attack that led to the airstrikes and blaming Tehran for the embassy siege.

"Iran killed an American contractor, wounding many," Trump tweeted from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. "We strongly responded, and always will. Now Iran is orchestrating an attack on the U.S. Embassy in Iraq. They will be held fully responsible. In addition, we expect Iraq to use its forces to protect the Embassy, and so notified!"

He added later in a separate tweet: "To those many millions of people in Iraq who want freedom and who don't want to be dominated and controlled by Iran, this is your time!"

Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said the Pentagon has taken "appropriate force-protection actions to ensure the safety of American citizens, military personnel and diplomats" in Iraq "and to ensure our right of self-defense." He added in a statement: "We are sending additional forces to support our personnel at the Embassy."

As the chaos erupted, U.S. military officials were left to determine how to respond without further inflaming the situation. They settled on dispatching two of the Army's Apache gunship helicopters to provide overwatch and security, and deploying scores of Marines from a crisis-response unit in Kuwait to reinforce those already guarding the embassy.

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Their chants of “Death to America” carried echoes of the 1979 Iran hostage crisis, when Iranian students seized control of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and detained American diplomats and other personnel for 444 days.

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Much more at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/iran-backed-militia-supporters-converge-on-us-embassy-in-baghdad-shouting-death-to-america/2019/12/31/93f050b2-2bb1-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html?arc404=true

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Iran.
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Iran.



All over again.

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And now Trump is deploying 750 troops to Iraq to defend the embassy.... Sound familiar?

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Does this mean Ronald Reagan will be elected next?

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This gives me a feeling of great dread.

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Iraqi TV Reports Strike Kills Powerful Iranian Revolutionary Guard Commander

The death of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani was reported in Iraqi and Lebanese official media.

By Falih Hassan, Alissa J. Rubin and Michael Crowley | Jan. 2, 2020 Updated 9:29 p.m. ET


BAGHDAD — Iraqi state television reported Friday that a powerful commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, was killed in a strike on the Baghdad International Airport early Friday.

Iranian and American officials have not confirmed the death of General Suleimani, and it was unclear who carried out the strike.

Iraqi and Lebanese television reported his death, which was confirmed by senior militia leader in Iraq.

The strikes followed a warning on Thursday afternoon from Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper, who said the United States military would pre-emptively strike Iranian-backed forces in Iraq and Syria if there were signs the paramilitary groups were planning more attacks against American bases and personnel in the region.

“If we get word of attacks, we will take pre-emptive action as well to protect American forces, protect American lives,” Mr. Esper said. “The game has changed.”

If the reports prove true, the killing of General Suleimani would be a major blow for Iran.

American officials consider General Suleimani, the commander of the Revolutionary Guards’ elite Quds Force, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American soldiers during the Iraq War and hostile Iranian activities throughout the Middle East.

“If true, this is devastating for the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps, the regime and Khamenei’s regional ambitions,” said Mark Dubowitz, chief executive of the hawkish Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a conservative think tank that supports a hard line against Iran, referring to the country’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

“For 23 years, he has been the equivalent of the J.S.O.C. commander, the C.I.A. director and Iran’s real foreign minister,” Mr. Dubowitz said, using an acronym for the United States Joint Special Operations Command. “He is irreplaceable and indispensable” to Iran’s military establishment.

The strike killed five people, including the pro-Iranian chief of an umbrella group for Iraqi militias, Iraqi television reported and militia officials confirmed. The militia chief, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, was a strongly pro-Iranian figure.

Much more at: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/world/middleeast/qassem-soleimani-iraq-iran-attack.html

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No.... This isn't good at all....

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Malcolm Nance
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IRAQ URGENT: Apparently Trump has decided we want open war with the
top 3 largest militias that comprise +150,000 fighters including the 25,000
Katieb Hezbollah & 10,000s more in the Badr Brigades.- Malcolm Nance


Malcolm Nance
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URGENT: Iraqi army & CT forces are
defensive surrounding the Green
Zone. All bridges closed. This won't
stop the militias GRAD & IRAM rockets
that are certain to come any time now.
Any. Time.


Malcolm Nance
38 min

WARNING: THIS INCIDENT CAN MAKE
EVERY AMERICAN SERVICEMAN AND
DIPLOMAT IN NON-KURDISH IRAQ
MARKED FOR DEATH. No amount of
reinforcements will help this situation if
it spirals out of control. Iran will start
issuing weapons & IEDs. It's Najif
2004 all over again.

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Iranian and American officials have not confirmed the death of General Suleimani, and it was unclear who carried out the strike.

Well, now we know.

CNN's banner headline says, "The Pentagon announces the US killed Iranian military leader in a strike."

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(NBC News) - BREAKING: Trump ordered airstrike that killed top Iran general Qassim Suleimani, the Pentagon confirms

The Defense Department confirmed late Thursday that President Donald Trump instructed the U.S. military to take "decisive action to protect U.S. personnel abroad." Suleimani was developing plans to attack U.S. diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region, it said in a statement. "The U.S. will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world," the statement said.

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Did Trump leave it to the military to determine what "decisive action to protect U.S. personnel abroad" would be, or did Trump order airstrikes specifically?

I would have to think the generals would understand the implications of taking out Suleimani.

Iran isn't going to take this lying down.

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Malcolm Nance
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Good Question: Why is killing Solimani bad? I cheer his death but now
imagine the hundreds of rockets about to hit our forces/Embassy all over
Iraq killing US soldiers. It's all about the Shia Iraqi militiamen who now see
us an enemy that needs to be punished & removed from Iraq.-Malcolm
Nance


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If this guy is as bad as he's been
described, why is this strike a bad
idea? Care to explain
@MalcolmNance?

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Not in the least.... I am running almost an hour behind in MNSBC programming because of a phone call. Rachel Maddow is interviewing the Tehran Bureau Chief, who said that Soleimani was the second most powerful man in Iran, behind Ayatolla Khameini.

This is very, very bad....

Like you, I'm going to be interested to hear whether the Pentagon recommended this (word now is that the Kudz force was actively planning imminent attacks on US diplomats and service members in Iraq), or whether Trump said, "Go plan something up."

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Wait.

Something is stirring in the recesses of my brain....

Isn't there an executive order (maybe in the Ford era) that PROHIBITS the US government from assassinating foreign leaders?

On the hunt....

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I think it prohibits assassination of foreign heads of state.

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Found it:

National Archives:

Executive order 12333, Part 2, Point 11:

2.11 Prohibition on Assassination. No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.

It was signed December 4, 1981, which would have made it a Reagan executive order.

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Nice work, Lis! My memory was wrong.

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Well, it gets murkier....

Wikipedia: Previously, EO 11905 (Gerald Ford) had banned political assassinations and EO 12036 (Jimmy Carter) had further banned indirect U.S. involvement in assassinations.[6] As early as 1998, this proscription against assassination was reinterpreted, and relaxed, for targets who are classified by the United States as connected to terrorism.

So because Trump and the Pentagon claim this was a direct action to prevent an act of terrorism, that will apparently take them off the hook.

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I wonder how that prohibition applies in times of war? Officially, this isn't a time of war, but the administration claims they had learned that "Suleimani was developing plans to attack U.S. diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region, [the Defense Department] said in a statement."

How do they know what Suleimani was planning?

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