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It's interesting to think about what things are important to people. I threw the wedding ring from my first marriage into the San Gabriel River, and I never wore another one. It's more fun to feel like you're living in sin anyway.



When I came to the US as a teenager to live with my grandparents on their farm, I was wearing a ring on the ring finger on my right hand. In any event the first day I was on the farm, my grandfather told me in no uncertain terms to take that ring off. That all it was doing was inviting dissaster. That farm work was among the most dangerous to begin with. And wearing that ring was just an open invitation fo r my finger to be ripped off in a power takeoff. And ever since that day I have heeded my grandfather's advice. And while working I do not wear jewelry of any type. I do wear my wedding ring when Becky and I go out in public together. But not when any type of manual Labour is involved.

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Your grandfather gave you very good advice, Hawk.

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Just unbelievable, watching these flames just jump over territory faster than so many can escape. I thought of you, Susie, and am glad that your friends have survived. But so sorry that they have lost everything....



There was one heartbreaking photo yesterday of a woman combing through the rubble of her house, trying to find her wedding ring.

My favorite "escape" town of Calistoga has been evacuated -- mandatory. This is heartbreaking.



The pic I saw said she had found it. If she did, it was blind luck, looking at the remains of the house. Why wasn't she wearing it?



Oh, that's wonderful that she found it, Cooter!!

I have no clue why she wasn't wearing it, but some of the women in my exercise class don't wear rings while exercising. I take my rings off to work in the garden, so I don't damage the prongs and lose a diamond. I doubt that woman was gardening, though.


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Susie, about 25 years ago I spent some time touring the Napa region and spent a little time in Calistoga. It is... and will be again... beautiful country. It's so sad to see it burning now.

I'm sure this is very hard on you to watch.

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Mine is off because I've lost enough weight that it's too big for me.



Any competent jeweler should be able to resize it for you.



Yes.... It's a bit of a story.

When Brett and I got engaged, we were 19-year-old starving college kids. Our rings were 10-karat gold, and mine had a 1/8-carat diamond with a crack and two bubbles in it. Way back in 1982, it was $120 for the three-ring set. It took us nearly a year of $20 monthly payments, but we did it. emoticon

Fast forward 27 years. I had already had the ring resized larger once, and it was again so tight that it was stuck on. Brett convinced me to upgrade the ring for our 25th anniversary. And when I said yes, I had to undergo a pretty painful process of cutting off the original rings.

So we found another thicker 10-karat gold mount, rather than two separate engagement/wedding bands (I'm hard on jewelry because of constant work with my hands). I wanted to combine my wedding ring with a Mother's ring. We put a 1/4-carat diamond in the middle. On one side, we put my birthstone, Andrew's birthstone, and Cameron's birthstone. On the other side, we put my original diamond, Brett's birthstone, and Mom's birthstone. I've loved that new ring for the last 8 1/2 years.

But it kept getting looser and looser as the weight came off, and I started taking it off more and more often, fearing I'd lose it. Now I don't wear it at all.

I'd get it resized, but I'm not sure if the weight will keep coming off, which would necessitate resizing it yet again.... I've lost a whole person so far, and still have the better part of a person to go, so I'm waiting for a bit. emoticon

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Good on you for such a dramatic weight loss, Lis! Man, that must have been, and continue to be, a whole lot of effort!

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Actually, strangely enough, it hasn't been any effort. Thank goodness. Heaven knows I've tried enough times -- Weight Watchers and other responsible diets -- but EVERY blessed time, no matter where I started from, I'd drop 30 pounds fairly quickly, and then plateau. For MONTHS. And then just give up and gain back the 30, and then even more. Grrrrrr....

Over the last couple of years, the only things I've done differently are that I gave up Mountain Dew cold turkey, and I'm drinking a lot more water and Minute Maid light lemonade (15 calories per glass). Truth be known, I've been battling those depression demons again, so I haven't been hungry much, but I'm not intentionally doing anything. And heaven knows I have NEVER exercised, LOL!

But I'm down 138. The charts say I have about 140 to go, but I think I would be very, very happy with another 120, and happy with anything less at all. I've been told I'll feel SOOOOOOO much better with the weight off. Well, I don't feel one iota better yet. Then again, I'm probably just holding, and it would be even worse with the extra weight, so.... Hoping for the best.

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Your ring sounds beautiful, Lis.
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Lis, I know how you loved Mountain Dew, so giving it up was a major move.

As for water, I thought you hated that stuff, so I'm impressed you're drinking it.

Good on ya!

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Lis, congratulations on the weight loss. I know it must feel great, both physically and emotionally.

I truly do feel for the people of Northern California. In many ways the 13 years I spent in San Francisco were among the better years of my life. In addition to walking in tall cotton financially, it was there that I met and married the one true love of my life. And it was during those years that our two oldest children were born. And there are many things I miss about Northern California. However, wild fires, mud slides and earth quakes are not among them.

These wildfires that are devastating Napa and Sanoma Counties in particular bring back memories that are now 38 years old. But remain totally vivid in my mind. Of the weekend when this crazy Italian expat and his equally crazy California girlfriend were married on Saturday in the garden of a Napa Valley Inn. And then spent their one night honeymoon at that inn before returning to the City and work on Monday morning. With the promise that we would have a "real" honeymoon within the next year. Well, that one year grew into multiple years. And before we knew it, after various obligations, including. a major change involving both career and geography,, and the birth of children and grandchildren, it was 35 years before we celebrated that real honeymoon. And that two week honeymoon in Malta was almost as special as our one night in Napa. And my heart breaks at the thought of what has become of that little Inn outside St. Helena.

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Awww... What a lovely memory, GoHawk.

I read one of the stories this morning, of a couple who had spent the weekend with their daughter, son-in-law, and granddaughter on the top of a mountain. They had no warning. The son-in-law had gotten up at 1 am, saw a glow in the yard, and didn't know what it was. He looked out and suddenly saw embers falling -- and said the entire yard was ablaze within 30-45 seconds. They ran to their cars, with son-in-law taking the lead, daughter and granddaughter in the second car, and the grandparents in the third car. Flaming trees were falling in the road as they passed. When the first two cars reached past the fire line, they realized the grandparents weren't with them. The grandfather said a tree had fallen across the road in front of them. The couple scrambled back up the path to the house and jumped into the pool as the fire raged around them, with only their noses and mouths out of the water due to the heat. The grandfather said they were there six hours until the fire went out -- and his wife had died, probably of smoke inhalation, in his arms.

It just broke my heart.... And there are so many similar stories -- some who didn't make it, some who did and lost everything. I just can't imagine....

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Susie, about 25 years ago I spent some time touring the Napa region and spent a little time in Calistoga. It is... and will be again... beautiful country. It's so sad to see it burning now.

I'm sure this is very hard on you to watch.



Yes, it is hard to watch. Raoul would have found it difficult, too.
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Lis, congratulations on the weight loss. I know it must feel great, both physically and emotionally.

I truly do feel for the people of Northern California. In many ways the 13 years I spent in San Francisco were among the better years of my life. In addition to walking in tall cotton financially, it was there that I met and married the one true love of my life. And it was during those years that our two oldest children were born. And there are many things I miss about Northern California. However, wild fires, mud slides and earth quakes are not among them.

These wildfires that are devastating Napa and Sanoma Counties in particular bring back memories that are now 38 years old. But remain totally vivid in my mind. Of the weekend when this crazy Italian expat and his equally crazy California girlfriend were married on Saturday in the garden of a Napa Valley Inn. And then spent their one night honeymoon at that inn before returning to the City and work on Monday morning. With the promise that we would have a "real" honeymoon within the next year. Well, that one year grew into multiple years. And before we knew it, after various obligations, including. a major change involving both career and geography,, and the birth of children and grandchildren, it was 35 years before we celebrated that real honeymoon. And that two week honeymoon in Malta was almost as special as our one night in Napa. And my heart breaks at the thought of what has become of that little Inn outside St. Helena.



I have spent many special times at various inns in the Napa and Sonoma Valleys. My heart breaks when I think about it, too.
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Awww... What a lovely memory, GoHawk.

I read one of the stories this morning, of a couple who had spent the weekend with their daughter, son-in-law, and granddaughter on the top of a mountain. They had no warning. The son-in-law had gotten up at 1 am, saw a glow in the yard, and didn't know what it was. He looked out and suddenly saw embers falling -- and said the entire yard was ablaze within 30-45 seconds. They ran to their cars, with son-in-law taking the lead, daughter and granddaughter in the second car, and the grandparents in the third car. Flaming trees were falling in the road as they passed. When the first two cars reached past the fire line, they realized the grandparents weren't with them. The grandfather said a tree had fallen across the road in front of them. The couple scrambled back up the path to the house and jumped into the pool as the fire raged around them, with only their noses and mouths out of the water due to the heat. The grandfather said they were there six hours until the fire went out -- and his wife had died, probably of smoke inhalation, in his arms.

It just broke my heart.... And there are so many similar stories -- some who didn't make it, some who did and lost everything. I just can't imagine....



That particular story was heart-wrenching. I was also very sad to learn that the long-time home of cartoonist Charles Schultz, who created the Peanuts comic strip, was lost in the fires. His widow managed to escape and get to her daughter's home.
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I'm sure this is very hard on you to watch.



Yes, it is hard to watch. Raoul would have found it difficult, too.



Yes, he certainly would have.

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Some stories of hope among the ashes:

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Parts Of LA On Fire As Several Blazes Scorch Southern California

December 6, 20175:53 AM ET | AMY HELD SCOTT NEUMAN

Updated at 3:32 p.m. ET

Firefighters were struggling to contain four wildfires in Los Angeles and Ventura counties, after a blaze broke out Wednesday morning within the LA city limits. The wildfires have burned a total of more than 80,000 acres, threatened more than 12,000 homes and other buildings and shut down more than four dozen schools.

So far, no one has died in the wildfires, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, or CalFire.

The latest wildfire erupted in the tony Bel-Air neighborhood of Los Angeles, shutting down part of the 405 freeway, a major thoroughfare. The nearby Getty Center was closed to protect the art collection from smoke damage.

The Skirball Fire began as a brush fire in an area known for its multimillion-dollar real estate and then consumed several homes, prompting a mandatory evacuation order in the area. Aerial footage showed flames and heavy smoke leaping the steep slopes of the Sepulveda Pass. The blaze covered around 50 acres as of early Wednesday but was continuing to grow, according to the Los Angeles Fire Department.

People also posted videos on social media that showed a harrowing commute as the flames from the Skirball Fire came close to the freeway.

Santa Ana winds — the strongest and longest of the season, with gusts of up to 70 mph, according to the National Weather Service — were driving the wildfires and complicating firefighters' efforts. While helicopters were used to dump water on the Skirball blaze, according to The Associated Press, aircraft in other areas were grounded by high winds.

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Secretary Zinke Directs Interior Bureaus to Take Aggressive Action to Prevent Wildfires

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And right on cue, the Congress does the unthinkable:

(]LA Times)The House Republican tax bill would eliminate the deduction for personal losses from wildfires, earthquakes and other natural disasters, but keep the break for victims of the recent severe hurricanes.

The legislation specifically repeals the deduction for personal casualty losses. The Internal Revenue Service describes casualty losses as including those from “natural disasters like hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and earthquakes. It can also include losses from fires, accidents, thefts or vandalism.”


So.... California residents, who see a significant amount of wildfires, lose their tax deduction. But Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida residents, who see a significant amount of hurricanes, get to KEEP their tax deduction.

Let us ponder why that might be so.

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