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Collins said last time that there were other Republican Senators in the shadows who were against the bill, but they wanted to remain in the shadows for electoral purposes, and she was willing to give them cover.

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You're probably right, Robbie. But I think at the very least that if Paul had waffled there were other no votes which would have still resulted in a defeat. To ask now, after the fact, which way the Senators would have voted would be a waste of time, but Murkowski, Portman, and Capito were still likely no votes, imo.




Yes, I think you and Lis are right that there were others who would have stepped up, but once there were three NO votes, they didn't need to do it.


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(]Yahoo) — President Donald Trump is allowing more employers to opt out of providing no-cost birth control to women by claiming religious or moral objections, issuing new rules Friday that take another step in rolling back the Obama health care law.

Employers with religious or moral qualms will also be able to cover some birth control methods, and not others. Experts said that could interfere with efforts to promote modern long-acting implantable contraceptives, such as IUDs, which are more expensive.

The new policy was a long-anticipated revision to Affordable Care Act requirements that most companies cover birth control as preventive care for women, at no additional cost. That Obama-era requirement applies to all FDA-approved methods, including the morning-after pill, which some religious conservatives call an abortion drug, though scientists say it has no effect on women who are already pregnant....

Tens of thousands of women could be affected by Trump's policy, but the vast majority of companies have no qualms about offering birth control benefits through their health plans. Human resource managers recognize that employers get an economic benefit from helping women space out their pregnancies, since female workers are central to most enterprises.

The administration estimated that some 200 employers who have already voiced objections to the Obama-era policy would qualify for the expanded opt-out, and that 120,000 women would be affected....

Since contraception became a covered preventive benefit, the share of women employees paying their own money for birth control pills has plunged to 3 percent, from 21 percent, according to the latest Kaiser Family Foundation figures....

"No American should be forced to violate his or her own conscience in order to abide by the laws and regulations governing our health care system," Health and Human Services spokeswoman Caitlin Oakley said in a statement. "Today's actions affirm the Trump administration's commitment to upholding the freedoms afforded all Americans under our Constitution...."

Administration officials said the new policy takes effect right away.


So.... Corporations' "consciences" cannot be violated (as if they exist at all), but it's perfectly fine for the corporation to violate MY conscience of how to conduct my own sex life. Lovely.

I assume this means we'll stop ACA funding for Viagra, too? Of course not....

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I assume this means we'll stop ACA funding for Viagra, too? Of course not....



Silly woman. Don't you know we Little Women are supposed to remain barefoot and pregnant?? (end sarcasm)

Thank heaven I don't have to worry about getting pregnant at this stage of my life.

I do worry that they are going to demolish Medicare via the new tax code before I qualify in a few months.

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I assume this means we'll stop ACA funding for Viagra, too? Of course not....



Silly woman. Don't you know we Little Women are supposed to remain barefoot and pregnant?? (end sarcasm)

Thank heaven I don't have to worry about getting pregnant at this stage of my life.

I do worry that they are going to demolish Medicare via the new tax code before I qualify in a few months.




I'm worried FOR you, Susie. I'm worried for my Mom being able to stay on Medicare and supplemental insurance. And I'm beginning to get discouraged that I'll EVER see Medicare more than a decade from now. And I cannot imagine what is going to happen to my boys.

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Silly woman. Don't you know we Little Women are supposed to remain barefoot and pregnant?? (end sarcasm)



Look at the bright side. They're letting you out of the kitchen.
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I thought that I would continue the opioid conversation here instead of the RR.

Yes, there's a crisis. Everything's a crisis. Trump is a crisis. What's happening is that instead of focusing on the entire opioid issue they're only looking at one thing because the politicians are going to be tough on crime. I've seen doctors who are raising hell about them inserting themselves between the doctor and the patient. I can guarantee you that mine won't be happy at all.

The politicians don't give a !@#$ about those of us who have to deal with chronic pain every !@#$ day. They only care about how many votes they can get. Doctors and pharmacists are the ones to deal with the prescription drug issues, not legislatures.
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Coward pulls this @#($*)& in the middle of the night....

Washington (]CNN) - President Donald Trump plans to end a key set of Obamacare subsidies that helped lower-income enrollees pay for health care, the White House said Thursday, a dramatic move that raises questions about the law's future.

The late-night announcement is part of Trump's aggressive push to dismantle aspects of his predecessor's signature health law after several failed attempts by Congress to repeal it earlier this year.
It also puts the spotlight back on Congress, where lawmakers in both parties have urged the administration to continue the payments to stabilize the Obamacare markets in the short term.

While senior congressional Republicans oppose the payments themselves -- they sued the Obama administration to stop them and have tried for years to repeal the underlying law altogether -- there's recognition of what ending them suddenly could do to the millions of Americans insured through the Obamacare exchanges.

Democrats have repeatedly pressed the administration for a longer term commitment that the payments would be made, but Trump has directed his advisers to keep them on a month-to-month basis, in part for negotiating leverage, according to sources with knowledge of the discussions.

Nearly 6 million enrollees, or 57%, qualify for the cost-sharing payments this year, according to the most recent data from the Department of Health and Human Services. The subsidies are expected to cost the federal government about $7 billion in 2017.

The uncertainty over the subsidies' fate was a key reason that many insurers are substantially hiking their rates for 2018 -- some by more than 20%. Several major carriers dropped out of the individual market, unwilling to wait and see what Trump and congressional Republicans would do.

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His purpose, as you know, is to encourage the young, healthy people into cheap coverage that won't cover much, leaving older and less healthy people in the main pool, causing that pool to have to pay more for their coverage because their coverage will cost more.

Meanwhile, those in the young, healthy pool will no longer have coverage for pre-existing conditions because they'll be outside Obamacare's requirements, which could come as a nasty surprise when they seek care.

What Trump is doing is kicking people in the teeth. And many of those people will be part of his base.

But HEY! It will save money which will help in the tax cut proposals.

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There's no connection between having birth control coverage in an insurance policy that one's employees have and practicing any religion by the employer. That's political bullshit. Organized conservative religion, which most of it is, is very controlling. That's because it's not about their adherents following what are good teachings, it's about money and power. I bailed on that !@#$ long, long ago. I can take care of my own spiritual needs.

I can go on some protracted rants on this topic, so I will nicely step down off of my soap box.
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Agreed, Cooter. Those demanding "religious freedom" are really demanding the freedom to impose their religion on others.

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Agreed, Cooter. Those demanding "religious freedom" are really demanding the freedom to impose their religion on others.



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Donald Trump’s Terrible Executive Order on Health Care

By Amy Davidson Sorkin Oct 13, 2017 11:11 A.M.

President Donald Trump is now trying to break the health-care system all by himself, although he has more help than he might acknowledge. On Thursday, Trump launched an assault on Obamacare from two angles. First, the White House staged a signing ceremony for an executive order designed to push people into what are known, accurately, as “junk” insurance plans—the kind, common before the passage of the Affordable Care Act, that never seem to cover people when they are actually sick and that extort and abandon those with preëxisting conditions. Trump, in his remarks at the ceremony, referred to this choice as “fleeing the failing Obamacare plans.” And then, a few hours later, he did more to make Obamacare fail, by saying that he would withhold the cost-sharing subsidies that the government currently pays insurance companies in order to reduce deductibles and co-pays for many low-income people. Companies will undoubtedly respond by leaving the Obamacare exchanges, where such plans are now sold. Both moves had one thing in common: they recklessly target vulnerable Americans. But in doing so, they will, as with so many of Trump’s moves, increase risks for everyone.

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[T]he false stories that congressional Republicans drew of Obamacare—a system that, whatever its flaws, has increased the number of Americans with insurance by some twenty million, and made that coverage more reliable for many times that number— fed partisan demands for Trump to savage it. The Republican Party made a destructive promise that Trump, as its candidate, has been eager to keep. It may be the only thing that the Party can rely on him for, and, although some individual Republicans, such as Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, of Florida—who, not incidentally, is retiring at the end of this term—worried about the effect on their constituents, Party leaders were quick with their gratitude. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell tweeted, “As #obamacare continues to fail Americans, I’m pleased @POTUS is promoting affordable policies to better meet the needs of families.” And the Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, said that Trump’s decision to end cost-sharing subsidies was a “monumental affirmation of Congress’s authority.” That may seem like an odd way to describe a move that was also framed as a response to Congress’s failure to repeal the [sign in to see URL]., and which was a flanking attempt to undermine a major piece of legislation. But, as a shorthand for the affirmation of the congressional Republicans’ ideological authority, it was not far wrong.

These two moves are not the only sabotage attempts that the Trump Administration has been engaged in. It has rewritten rules to allow plans to stop covering many forms of birth control. It has made disabling cuts to programs that help people sign up for Obamacare, and made enrollment, across the board, harder—more of a labyrinth. Information about plans that people might be able to afford has been, effectively, hidden. Perhaps this is, finally, an example of Trump bringing his business expertise to Washington: the knowledge that bad marketing can cripple a good project.

But the most Trumpian aspect of the executive order is that it makes life easier for con men. It does so by allowing the sale of insurance plans that do not meet basic standards through “associations,” which might be made up of employers, interest groups, or just entrepreneurial opportunists—the exact rules still have to be written. Obamacare plans offer certain defined essential services, such as preventive and obstetric care and hospitalization, that an insurance plan has to cover, and cover substantially, to call itself an insurance plan. In other words, the [sign in to see URL]. made it harder for employers or insurers to claim that they were covering people if, when it counted, they really weren’t. (Such a bait and switch was common in the pre-Obamacare days; many people who went bankrupt after a medical emergency actually had insurance plans.) The executive order would create a sham market alongside the real one. One concern is that young, healthy people will be drawn to association plans because they don’t “need” comprehensive coverage, and are making what they believe is a rational calculation, albeit one that will drive up premiums in the Obamacare market, by making that pool of people, on average, sicker and older. (Paul Ryan, who has complained that it is unfair that healthy people help pay for sick people—the premise of insurance—is an association-plan enthusiast.)

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In presenting the plan at the executive-order signing, Trump did his best impression of a flim-flam man—that is to say, he was entirely in character. The guests included members of his Administration, some small-business representatives, and Senator Rand Paul, who believed that the Senate’s last attempt to break Obamacare was not radical enough. Trump didn’t have many details other than the promise that a “nightmare” was over, that millions of people would be “very happy,” and that the whole thing would produce better plans at no expense whatsoever to the government. “That’s not too bad, right?” he said.

As Trump started to walk out of the room, though, Vice-President Mike Pence suddenly looked anxious. He hurried after his departing boss with an outstretched arm. “Mr. President, you need to sign it!” Pence said. “Oh,” Trump said, to laughter, and then added, “I’m only signing it because it costs nothing.” Not for him, maybe, unless our political marketplace comes up with some way to measure the cost, to a President and his Party, of presiding over a disaster.

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His purpose, as you know, is to encourage the young, healthy people into cheap coverage that won't cover much, leaving older and less healthy people in the main pool, causing that pool to have to pay more for their coverage because their coverage will cost more.

Meanwhile, those in the young, healthy pool will no longer have coverage for pre-existing conditions because they'll be outside Obamacare's requirements, which could come as a nasty surprise when they seek care.

What Trump is doing is kicking people in the teeth. And many of those people will be part of his base.

But HEY! It will save money which will help in the tax cut proposals.



Exactly, Robbie. Exactly.

Young people, in large part, simply don't think about the necessity of health care. *I* certainly didn't. Heck, Brett and I couldn't afford health care at all for the first three years we were married. And hey, what could possibly go wrong? Pregnancy? Car crash? Cancer? No, not us....

And if these new policies void ObamaCare requirements, does that mean the insurer can DROP the client for daring to get sick? Lifetime maximums back in play? Oh, how quickly the sick ones will try to jump back onto the protected plans -- except that the premiums will now have EXPLODED, and while they're guaranteed the ABILITY to be accepted, the price will simply be out of reach.

No, this one isn't Trump being incompetent. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing this time. He has been very, very carefully coached by someone. It is an evil plot with a PURPOSE to destroy ObamaCare, simply because Trump has an obsessive NEED to destroy everything Obama ever touched.

I don't wish anyone ill will. But Trump certainly makes that vow VERY difficult. I don't wish him ill. But I wish him first-hand experience at dealing with the struggle he is forcing onto millions of Americans. I'm not sure how to work that in my mind. Let's just call it first-hand on-the-job training.

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From the American Academy of Actuaries

HEALTH ISSUES
Alert No. 2017-H-28
October 13, 2017
 
Trump Administration Announces Ending of CSR Payments Immediately

 
The Trump Administration ]announced late Thursday night that cost-sharing reduction (CSR) payments will discontinue immediately after receiving ]a legal opinion from the U.S. Attorney General.
 
 
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You can expect to see legal challenges to that since those payments are actually part of the law
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And those payment, or the lack of them, will directly impact a whole lot of Trump's base. I wonder how Trump will manage to blame Obama for it.

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And those payment, or the lack of them, will directly impact a whole lot of Trump's base. I wonder how Trump will manage to blame Obama for it.



All he'll have to do is say the words, "It's Obama's fault". It will automatically be believed by tens of millions of automatons, Trump-bots.
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And those payment, or the lack of them, will directly impact a whole lot of Trump's base. I wonder how Trump will manage to blame Obama for it.



All he'll have to do is say the words, "It's Obama's fault". It will automatically be believed by tens of millions of automatons, Trump-bots.



Yep - they'll just say "see, Obamacare doesn't work" and his base won't bother asking why.
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It's now Trumpcare. The GOP, and the President, own it.

Premiums in Mississippi are expected to rise around 47%, which will affect a goodly number of Trump voters. That's if they can get insurance.
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They'll still blame Obama.

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