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Quinnipiac Poll (June 6-10, +/-3.5%) - Head-to-Head Dems v Trump

Booker beats Trump by 5:
     Booker 47%
     Trump 42%

Buttigieg beats Trump by 5:
     Buttigieg 47%
     Trump 42%

Warren beats Trump by 7:
     Warren 49%
     Trump 42%

Harris beats Trump by 8:
     Harris 49%
     Trump 41%

Sanders beats Trump by 9:
     Sanders 51%
     Trump 42%

Biden beats Trump by 13:
     Biden 53%
     Trump 40%


And the New York Times has just written an article saying that Trump's campaign conducted an internal 17-state poll. The Times is calling the results "devastating." When told the results, Trump ordered his staff to insist to the press that he's looking great in the polls.

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Quinnipiac Poll (June 6-10, +/-3.5%) - Head-to-Head Dems v Trump



Dear God, please don't let the Democratic Party eat its own.

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JustLis wrote:

Quinnipiac Poll (June 6-10, +/-3.5%) - Head-to-Head Dems v Trump

Booker beats Trump by 5:
     Booker 47%
     Trump 42%

Buttigieg beats Trump by 5:
     Buttigieg 47%
     Trump 42%

Warren beats Trump by 7:
     Warren 49%
     Trump 42%

Harris beats Trump by 8:
     Harris 49%
     Trump 41%

Sanders beats Trump by 9:
     Sanders 51%
     Trump 42%

Biden beats Trump by 13:
     Biden 53%
     Trump 40%


And the New York Times has just written an article saying that Trump's campaign conducted an internal 17-state poll. The Times is calling the results "devastating." When told the results, Trump ordered his staff to insist to the press that he's looking great in the polls.



As long as he loses the electoral vote . . . My fear is that he could pull off another electoral victory while once again losing the popular vote. I’m glad to see that he’s trailing in two battleground states that he won: Pennsylvania and Michigan. If he had lost those states last time around, he’d have lost the election.
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Trump was electedPresident in no small measure due to the fact that Hillary Clinton and her team ran an absolutely horrid campaign, all but totally ignoring the rust belt and eastern farm belt that extended from Pennsylvania in the east to Iowa and Missouri in the west.
On top of which Hillary has all the personalty of a water buffalo.

This time around unless the Democrats nominate a modern day Michael Dukakis, Trump will lose both thePopular vote and the electoral college. In 2016 Trump carried Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, wisconsin, and Iowa, each by razor thin margins. As things stand today he would not carry any of those states agvain.
 

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June 11, 2019 - Top Dems Lead Trump In Head-To-Head Matchups, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Democratic Primary Race Narrows As Biden Goes Flat

In a first look at head-to-head 2020 presidential matchups nationwide, several Democratic challengers lead President Donald Trump, with former Vice President Joseph Biden ahead 53 - 40 percent, according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

In other matchups, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds:

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders over President Trump 51 - 42 percent;
    California Sen. Kamala Harris ahead of Trump 49 - 41 percent;
    Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren tops Trump 49 - 42 percent;
    South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg edges Trump 47 - 42 percent;
    New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker by a nose over Trump 47 - 42 percent.


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*Used car salesman over Trump 59 - 42 percent
*Root Canal Dentist Dr Paine over Trump, 61 - 42 percent
* Your Ex-Spouse's Lawyer over Trump, 49 - 42 percent
*IRS Agent Mr Payup over Trump, 63 - 42 percent
*Nurse Ratched over Trump, 79 - 42 percent
*Traffic Cop Officer Pullover over Trump, 57 - 42 percent
*Customer Service representative Ms Pleasehold over Trump, 74 - 42 percent

(I could continue...)

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That henna design is making you frisky, Robbie.

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*Used car salesman over Trump 59 - 42 percent
*Root Canal Dentist Dr Paine over Trump, 61 - 42 percent
* Your Ex-Spouse's Lawyer over Trump, 49 - 42 percent
*IRS Agent Mr Payup over Trump, 63 - 42 percent
*Nurse Ratched over Trump, 79 - 42 percent
*Traffic Cop Officer Pullover over Trump, 57 - 42 percent
*Customer Service representative Ms Pleasehold over Trump, 74 - 42 percent

(I could continue...)


With that kind of creative math going on, I think we've identified ONE person who has been voting more than once....

Hey, Trump, over here!

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Let's not get overconfident. There's still a long way to go to November 2020, and the Russians and Saudis haven't finished with us yet.
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Let's not get overconfident. There's still a long way to go to November 2020, and the Russians and Saudis haven't finished with us yet.



True, dat.

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In my view the Democrats would be wise to focus more on the Senatorial races than they are. If the win the Senate, hold the House, even if, God forbid, Donald Trump were to win he essentially would be paralyzed.
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In my view the Democrats would be wise to focus more on the Senatorial races than they are. If the win the Senate, hold the House, even if, God forbid, Donald Trump were to win he essentially would be paralyzed.



Would he, or would he just issue Executive Orders?

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quote:

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In my view the Democrats would be wise to focus more on the Senatorial races than they are. If the win the Senate, hold the House, even if, God forbid, Donald Trump were to win he essentially would be paralyzed.



Would he, or would he just issue Executive Orders?



It’s true that he will still be able to issue Executive Orders, but his judicial and other nominees would no longer be rubber stamped. And the Courts have been something of a check on his more outrageous Executive Orders. But I have no doubt that in the event that he does lose the Senate that he will make very effort to govern by fiat.
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quote:

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In my view the Democrats would be wise to focus more on the Senatorial races than they are. If the win the Senate, hold the House, even if, God forbid, Donald Trump were to win he essentially would be paralyzed.


Would he, or would he just issue Executive Orders?


Oh, no. He wouldn't do that! Because isn't that EXACTLY what he whined about Obama doing?

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In my view the Democrats would be wise to focus more on the Senatorial races than they are. If the win the Senate, hold the House, even if, God forbid, Donald Trump were to win he essentially would be paralyzed.


Yes, Brick. I'm hoping many of these 1%ers will drop out of the presidential race soon and file for the Senate primaries. We'll NEED them, whether the Dem candidate wins or not.

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It’s true that he will still be able to issue Executive Orders, but his judicial and other nominees would no longer be rubber stamped. And the Courts have been something of a check on his more outrageous Executive Orders. But I have no doubt that in the event that he does lose the Senate that he will make very effort to govern by fiat.



You've noticed, I'm sure, that Trump makes only "acting" appointments these days, which allows him to avoid Senate hearings and confirmation. You're right, though, that he can't make "acting" federal judges.

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Trump says he’d consider accepting information from foreign governments on his opponents

By Colby Itkowitz and
Tom Hamburger
June 12 at 7:26 PM

President Trump on Wednesday said he would consider accepting information on his political opponents from a foreign government, despite the concerns raised by the intelligence community and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III over Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

In an Oval Office interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, Trump also said he wouldn’t necessarily alert the FBI if a foreign country approached his campaign with “oppo research” about his Democratic challenger.

“I think you might want to listen; there isn’t anything wrong with listening,” Trump said. “If somebody called from a country, Norway, ‘We have information on your opponent,’ oh, I think I’d want to hear it.”

When Stephanopoulos asked the president whether he’d want that kind of “interference” in American politics, Trump pushed back on the word.

“It’s not an interference, they have information — I think I’d take it,” Trump said. “If I thought there was something wrong, I’d go maybe to the FBI, if I thought there was something wrong.”

Although Mueller did not find enough evidence to establish a criminal conspiracy involving the Trump campaign in his probe of Russia’s role in the 2016 election, his report said that the Russian government interfered in the election in a “sweeping and systemic fashion” and that Trump’s campaign was open to assistance from Russian sources.

Trump dismissed the idea that his son, Donald Trump Jr., should have told the FBI about his 2016 contacts with the Russians, including the Trump Tower meeting Trump Jr. hosted after he was promised damaging information about Democrat Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian government effort to help his father’s campaign.

“You’re a congressman, someone comes up and says, ‘I have information on your opponent,’ do you call the FBI?” Trump asked.

“If it’s coming from Russia, you do,” Stephanopoulos said, pointing out that Al Gore’s campaign contacted the FBI when it received a stolen briefing book in 2000 and that the FBI director said recently that the agency should have been notified when the Trump campaign received an offer of information on Clinton.

“The FBI director is wrong,” Trump said.

The FBI offers generic defensive briefings to campaigns, warning them of foreign influence efforts, and at a May 7 Senate hearing, FBI Director Christopher A. Wray said any suspected attempts should be reported.

“I think my view is that if any public official or member of any campaign is contacted by any nation-state or anybody acting on behalf of a nation-state about influencing or interfering with our election, then that is something that the FBI would want to know about,” Wray said.

It is illegal to accept foreign campaign contributions, although an exchange of information is a more murky matter.

Mueller found that it was not clear whether courts would accept that opposition research provided free by a foreign government constituted a “thing of value” and thus an illegal foreign campaign contribution.

Ultimately, Mueller also found that he could not sustain a criminal case around the meeting, in part because it would be difficult to prove that Trump Jr. knew it could violate the law.

Trevor Potter, counsel to John McCain’s presidential campaigns, said that any candidate who takes intelligence from a foreign government would be compromised and left beholden to that country.

“The Founders feared exactly such foreign attempts to interfere in U.S. politics,” he said.

Republicans have accused Clinton’s campaign of also accepting foreign assistance. An opposition research firm funded by Clinton’s campaign hired a former British spy who interviewed Russian sources and others and produced a dossier that included lurid and unproven allegations against Trump.

Democrats jumped on Trump’s remarks Wednesday and called for the passage of legislation to explicitly require candidates to disclose a foreign government’s help as it would campaign contributions.

Sen. Mark R. Warner (Va.), the highest-ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee. that if the president “does not have enough of a moral compass” to understand this is wrong, “perhaps we need legislation saying that there is a duty to report such offers of assistance to law enforcement. I just can’t understand this. I think every past presidential campaign — Republican or Democrat — would have recognized that obligation.”

Appearing on CNN shortly after Trump’s remarks aired, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) said a change in campaign law is needed “to deter the kind of unethical unpatriotic conduct the president engaged in the last campaign and is completely willing to do all over again. He learned nothing.”

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Mueller couldn't definitively conclude that Trump knew he couldn't accept a "thing of value" from a foreign government when he accepted help from Russia. Now he has told us he knows it, but is willing to do it anyway and wouldn't find it necessary to tell the FBI.

C'mon, Nancy Pelosi, how much do you need?

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Unfortunately, saying that you are willing to commit a crime isn't the same as actually committing it. It does however offer clear proof as to his thinking on the subject and that begs investigating what he and his crew might have done 3-4 years ago.

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Wake me up once the Dem debates are ready to start. I have really enjoyed the last week which has been devoid of political and government news items.
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Unfortunately, saying that you are willing to commit a crime isn't the same as actually committing it. It does however offer clear proof as to his thinking on the subject and that begs investigating what he and his crew might have done 3-4 years ago.



He already did it, Peter (Russia, if you're listening...). Now he's saying he'd do it again.

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