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Yup. Isn't it amazing? Of course, if the roles had been reversed, threats of lawsuits would have been flying....

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Yup. Isn't it amazing? Of course, if the roles had been reversed, threats of lawsuits would have been flying....



They may be suing anyway.
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([url=[sign in to see URL] - LeBron James Subject of Petition to Have Lakers Star Made Secretary of Education


Nearly 11,000 people have signed an online petition aimed at making Los Angeles Lakers superstar LeBron James the United States Secretary of Education.

The petition, which is directed at President Donald Trump, praises James and criticizes current Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos: "LeBron James is an inspiration to kids all over the country. He's shown he cares about America's youth and understands the power of public education in helping children meet their true potential."



Where do I sign?

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He'd be better than the loser we have in there now.
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Agreed.

Then again, dead fish would be better than the loser we have in there now.

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LeBron James as Secretarty of Education? Not in my mind. Although, even though he would be an improvement over Betsy DeVos. But hell, either of my two toddler, granddaughters who only understand Italian would be an improvement.


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Ha, Hawk! I believe that! emoticon

But I think that's the point of the petition. LeBron James would never accept such a role anyway. But it sends a message.

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Ha, Hawk! I believe that! emoticon

But I think that's the point of the petition. LeBron James would never accept such a role anyway. But it sends a message.



Unfortunately the one person who most desperately needs to hear the message, isnt list ening.

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He doesn't listen to anyone, which is painfully obvious.
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Betsy DeVos wants to fail students at for-profit colleges.


"Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is about to make life a lot easier for predatory for-profit colleges and a lot tougher for students lured by overblown promises of jobs that never materialize.

For years, some for-profit colleges have left devastated students in their wake — often veterans and struggling workers who waste years to obtain worthless degrees and take on enormous student debt only to face poor job prospects. The upshot? Some in the industry get rich. Students get suckered. And taxpayers get stuck holding the bag for millions of dollars in defaulted loans and grants spent on worthless programs.

The Obama administration came down hard on the industry and spent years honing a regulation to make career programs more accountable.

What has the Trump administration done? Last week, DeVos took the first step toward dumping the rule and removing potential punishment that even the industry acknowledges has forced some schools to shut down and others to clean up their acts.

The rule requires colleges with career programs to report graduates’ student debt compared with their incomes to ensure that the debt isn’t out of proportion to what they earn. Federal law mandates that schools prepare students for "gainful employment," and students shouldn’t be forced into the poor house by enormous loans that got them nothing of value. The rule makes sense. Programs that repeatedly fail to meet the modest government standard — that a typical student's loan payments not exceed 12 percent of his yearly earnings — lose their eligibility for three years for student loans and grants, the lifeblood for most of these programs.

Last year, when the Obama Education Department released its first set of statistics, nine out of 10 colleges, including public, private and for-profit institutions, had no failing programs.

Of the more than 800 programs that failed, most were at for-profit schools while a sprinkling were at non-profits. One of them was Harvard University’s [sign in to see URL]. Institute, a graduate theater training program, where the median student debt was $78,000 while graduates earned, on average, a meager $36,000 a year. It’s a perfect illustration of what the government is seeking to stop."


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Only the "best people".



I warned when DeVos was nominated that she and her husband were involved with for-profit schools in Michigan and pushed for the laws allowing them. They haven't done so well. That's another issue.



I've been a big critic of the for-profit post-secondary schools, and especially the 2-year schools that promise the sky while taking in big money through loans and grants but don't deliver. I supported the Obama [sign in to see URL] a [sign in to see URL] the Rules and requirements that it was making for post-secondary education. They also apply to non-profit schools. The cost of post-secondary education is a major issue for probably most families and individual students. I've railed that about that and some of the reasons why, but that's yet another issue. Nominating and confirming DeVos was like opening the chicken coop for the foxes. Our young deserve better than being scammed.

In case anyone wonders, I posted this elsewhere, although I can't conceive of changing anything.
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Amen, Cooter....

As a high school Econ teacher, I was CONSTANTLY being pressured with phone calls from Indianapolis "Business Colleges" to let them come in and sell their programs to the kids. Their biggest "selling point"? That I could take a day off and just sit back while they took my class for the day. Um, hello, I take my students' education far more seriously than that.

Virtually ALL of those "colleges" either went bankrupt or were shut down under these schemes. And the kids were left with debt and no degree. Horrible, horrible scam. And with their debt load, what was the likelihood of getting ANOTHER student loan to go to a LEGITIMATE school?

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ITT was taking their money and running in Memphis with SW TN CC and NW MS CC offering all of the programs at far less cost and with financial aid available. They were one of the ones that had to close.
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Here, too, Cooter.

I specifically remember ITT because they absolutely would NOT take "no" for an answer about taking one of my class days to recruit students. One of the recruiters actually showed up in my classroom (back before the days when you had to check in at the doors), unannounced. GO AWAY!

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Here, too, Cooter.

I specifically remember ITT because they absolutely would NOT take "no" for an answer about taking one of my class days to recruit students. One of the recruiters actually showed up in my classroom (back before the days when you had to check in at the doors), unannounced. GO AWAY!



We had a really large lobby in my building, and we'd get 4-year schools in to recruit. They would always contact the activities people to get an OK from them. I've had a few over the years who weren't from colleges come in for various things. When I asked some if they had gone through the Activities people, they said they had cleared it with the building supervisor. I then said that would be me, and you haven't. Get out. I had to call security on a couple of [sign in to see URL].
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Oh, you're good! We mere high school teachers had no such powers.... emoticon

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Higher education has its pluses. I once called a student aside following class and told him that I'd had enough and that one more smart assed comment or group of comments from him and he was gone. He said that I couldn't do it. I told him to hide and watch as I stared straight into his eyes. That got to him and he actually wound up having a good semester. I wrote a complimentary note on the last test paper before the final. He had a good reaction when he saw it.

I could kick a student out and the Dean would back me on it. So would the President.
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Boy, would that have been nice....

By the time I left, a student could cuss up and down and disrupt a whole class, and after a few minutes in the principal's office, be sent right back to class.

Needing a butt in the chair for the district to be paid (due to school choice) has significant down sides.

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(]CNN) - Trump admin disputes NYT report on Education Department plan to arm teachers

The Trump administration is pushing back on a New York Times report that Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is looking into a plan that would allow states to use federal funding to buy firearms for teachers.

On Wednesday, the Times reported that the Education Department was considering using a grant program called the Student Support and Academic Enrichment Program as a way to give federal funding for firearm purchases to states or school districts. The report cited multiple people with knowledge of the plan.

A senior administration official told CNN that the idea laid out in the Times report did not originate with the Department of Education or DeVos. That official said the department received a letter from the Texas state Department of Education asking if the funds from a federal grant program could be used to purchase firearms. It was circulated to departmental lawyers and researchers for guidance, according to the official. The department ultimately chose not to respond, the official said.

The official added that DeVos thinks that Congress should take action to clarify whether or not using the grant funding to buy guns is permissible. Moreover, the Education Department believes the grant program is intentionally vague to give school districts flexibility, and the idea of purchasing firearms was likely not considered when it was written, according to the official.

In response to the Times report, Education Department spokeswoman Liz Hill told CNN that "the department is constantly considering and evaluating policy issues, particularly issues related to school safety. The secretary nor the department issues opinions on hypothetical scenarios."


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On the rare occasions when I'm feeling down, I can always feel better by reminding myself that I'm no longer in Texas.

Texas Board Votes To Cut Hillary Clinton, Helen Keller From History Courses

By Mary Papenfuss
9/15/2018

The Texas State Board of Education voted Friday to remove mentions of Hillary Clinton and Helen Keller from the state’s mandatory history curriculum — but will keep in Moses’ influence on U.S. founding documents, The Dallas Morning News reported.

The changes are part of an effort to selectively ”streamline” information in history classes for some 5.4 million schoolchildren.

As a part of the board’s assessment, each historical figure was given a numerical importance rating from one to 20 by committee members, according to the newspaper. Clinton, the first woman in U.S. history to win a presidential nomination by a major political party, only ranked a five. Keller, a writer and activist born in 1888 who was the first deaf and blind American to earn a college degree, rated a seven.

Local members of the Texas legislature rated a 20. All students are required to learn about the current U.S. president, so Donald Trump was not assessed.

Texas Monthly reported that board members had considered cutting a “value-laden” phrase about “all the heroic defenders who gave their lives” in the 1836 battle of the Alamo against Mexican soldiers in what was then Mexican Texas. One state official called it “politically correct nonsense,” and the board chose not to drop it.

“In Texas, you don’t mess with the Alamo and you don’t mess with our Christian heritage,” Texas Values President Jonathan M. Saenz said in a statement. “We applaud the majority of the State Board of Education for doing the right thing by restoring our foundational rights and history.”

The vote is preliminary and may still change. The final vote is in November.
The annual decisions are often controversial.

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When is the Republic of Texas going to form its own country? I keep waiting...

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